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elphenor 08-01-2019 12:46 PM

that would all depend on how steep the tax is

their other purpose could be to use the gov to redirect money from fossil fuels to Green research

it'll take a ton of money to get the tech we need

Mindfulness 08-01-2019 12:51 PM

today was my first experience of "oh, you didnt bring your own bag?" they stopped doing plastic bags at two local grocery stores :cool: i love it :)

i felt weird because i didnt bring one but they were nice enough to give me one, Big Y is the stores name.


i normally bring my aldi bags to their store since they already on that path since way way back. wish trader joes had more money to open in rural areas like general dollar is. general store realizes that rural commercial land is rare and valuable for a national structure of stores.(in my opinion) :o:

jwb 08-01-2019 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2069614)
that would all depend on how steep the tax is

their other purpose could be to use the gov to redirect money from fossil fuels to Green research

it'll take a ton of money to get the tech we need

I don't think it takes a carbon tax... If we just properly funded either NASA or the DOD and put them to it they could figure it out

Honestly my main beef is carbon taxes aren't a real solution yet they're the go to talking point for Democrats. I don't see them as the end of the world, just unnecessary and possibly politically counter productive.

elphenor 08-01-2019 01:03 PM

I think it's one of several possible solutions that should be explored

we almost should be trying everything at this point

Red Alert This Is Not A Drill

whatever damage done to the economy in the short term will likely pale in comparison to the damage that's being done long term

jwb 08-01-2019 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2069622)
whatever damage done to the economy in the short term will likely pale in comparison to the damage that's being done long term

I don't disagree I just think it would face a lot less political opposition without the carbon tax and at this point we have debated it long enough and need to move towards a real long term solution.

elphenor 08-01-2019 01:13 PM

Id like to be wrong, but I don't think there is a solution with with The GOP

they want to go down with the ship, they're saying it's not happening

the cognitive dissonance is too strong

OccultHawk 08-01-2019 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mindfulness (Post 2069616)
today was my first experience of "oh, you didnt bring your own bag?" they stopped doing plastic bags at two local grocery stores :cool: i love it :)

i felt weird because i didnt bring one but they were nice enough to give me one, Big Y is the stores name.


i normally bring my aldi bags to their store since they already on that path since way way back. wish trader joes had more money to open in rural areas like general dollar is. general store realizes that rural commercial land is rare and valuable for a national structure of stores.(in my opinion) :o:

every product you buy has a huge trail of plastic - the original packaging for pre-value added ingredients or materials- packing for shipping - repackaging after the product is made - packaging again for shipment

the store patting themselves on the back for inconveniencing you and saving money under the wildly false pretense of reducing waste is complete bull****

Mindfulness 08-01-2019 01:55 PM

:o:

OccultHawk 08-01-2019 01:55 PM

This is obviously just speculation but fossil fuels are so effective and cheap I believe every last ounce of it will be mined and burned even at the cost of the annihilation of our species. Our ancestors don’t even exist. Ultimately, we’re not going to be inconvenienced in the present for a future that is not ours. Even if we discover better alternative energy sources (and I don’t think we will) we’ll still use whatever we invent in tandem with fossil fuels. No law, no treaty, no nothing is going to stop it.

OccultHawk 08-01-2019 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mindfulness (Post 2069636)
:o:

I totally respect that about you. Real talk.


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