You can't define "better," that's kind of the thing.

I don't understand your point. Morality is relative because you can't define it. The only way you can end human suffering is to end human existence.

And I really dont know what the Klan has to do with it lol. Wouldnt they just continue to interpret the meaning of "better" to suit them regardless of the Officially Decided Definition of "making the world better?"

There are as many different ways of interpreting "making the world better" as there are genders.

It's lol cause it's self-congratulatory basic bitch entry level ****. Oh wow I'm so smart I figured out how the Holocaust wasn't objectively bad. Like, congrats, now keep wading through the philosophy kiddie pool until you've arrived at at least chest level edge.

Im pretty sure you and I (and most people on this forum) could sit down and come up with a list of things that constitutes "better". At that point we can make objective decisions with respect to the goal. It's not about some absolute definition its about agreeing upon the usage of the word before arguing about it. When we are debating and we each say better, it should mean the same thing otherwise the discussion is futile.

No bill that is signed into law should be allowed to have more than 1000 words.

Refer to Bill 2.0 for more details. Coming soon TM.

Yep

Care to explain? I dont see how im moving any goal posts.

Edit: Where does science come into this exactly? It's debate 101. If you cant agree or accept what a person means when they say something the discussion cant even begin to happen.

That's part of what's so lol

Donny, you're out of your element.

I know, youre anti-logic. What was I thinking.. derp

Why make progress when you can sit there bitching and getting off on your misery?

You’re back on that old fallback again?

I mean im trying to have a convo but they just say dumb****. So ill go back to saying dumb****.

This place is pretty boring when the only person worth having these kinds of discussions with is frown. At least when we disagree we can have a good back and fourth.

inb4 10 pages of back and forth over the false dichotomy between trying to improve your life and addressing how external influences have impacted your life.

Y'all remember when we did that every ****ing day for like three months straight? That sure was fun.

Dont worries, im done. This was a good reminder of why people get trolled.

Yeah, no ****. Thanks for pointing out the obvious and ignoring the larger point.

I'm TrYiNg To HaVe A cOnVeRsAtIoN

Calm down Philosophy 101. Just because you're not making the connections doesn't mean they're not there.

The thing that I said does not conflict with that point.

Ethics can be measured objectively when you attach it to a expectation/goal, which is what we always do when discussing ethics, morality, etc..

The argument is always that X is or isnt ethical/moral because of Y subjective expectation/goal. When Ys usage is understood by all parties in the discussion you can absolutely make objective statements about Xs morality/ethics. The people dont even have to agree about each others view of Y, but they need to accept(for arguments sake) what the other people mean when they say Y.

Otherwise you end up with sitcom dilemmas where people are like, "did you hear?", and the other person is like "yes, omg!" but they are actually talking about two different things and then it leads to drama.

If x + 2 = 4, then x = 2

DWV: Well what you're not considering is that 2 + 2 = 4, because what you're saying doesn't make sense.

Lol

Sick dodge.

Exposed!

That’s what I told Exo about The Rolling Stones

See Downy - we’re a lot a like

Thanks for connecting the dots frown

Hey what’s the topic today?

Yeah, too bad Frowns formula is whack.

I bet you meet dumb people wherever you go

Nope, I get my fill on MB.

Its funny how you think because I disagree with people that I think they are stupid.

That is pretty funny ngl

*laughing bear.gif*

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see if you can guess which one is mike pence's press secretary that tested positive..

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thank you donald trump or steve mnuchin. more family members got the trump bucks https://boxden.com/smilies/o16vPRS.png


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The shirt showed 2 terms.

I think certain people think having a supposedly good job gives them immunity.

After Pence’s stunt at that hospital, if he dies over the next few weeks - omg the joy I will feel. If both him and trump died. I would be ecstatic beyond words.

https://i.imgur.com/HpGv3zX.gif

https://i.imgur.com/alyYSOt.png

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yH4_uh9SMo

It hurts me that she's that attractive and works for that Norman Bates reenactor. But that's worse, and by worse here I mean vomit-inducing, is that she married that goblin, Stephen Miller.

Even if Obamagate is true, how exactly would it be treason unless you have a fascist allegiance to Trump?

Covid hasn’t stopped the capitalist racist hate machine from murdering black folks

First the jogger

Now some lady sleeping in bed

^ are you referring to that Black lady cop?