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OccultHawk 10-18-2019 07:12 AM

That’s all correct except maybe

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he's a suicidal democrat
If that were literally true I really would love him lol

jwb 10-18-2019 10:16 AM

Social* lol

Posted via my phone at work on a smoke break so I was in a hurry

OccultHawk 10-18-2019 12:33 PM

Just finished watching the debate. Yang killed it. Came out for legalizing personal use heroin and creating safe free use and distribution centers. He nailed the point that google and Facebook need to compensate us for what’s rightfully ours (our data). The only area where he blew it was he said people don’t want federal jobs fixing infrasture and working on green energy. I’m absolutely sure he was saying it’s not for EVERYBODY but he should’ve been clearer. Even with that slip he was so far ahead of heartbern and pokey it wasn’t even a contest. I had to pause and wank when gabbard was on. If she’d parade around topless on a horse like Putin I’d throw a buck in her g-string.

Y’all thinking elph is ok?

Anteater 10-18-2019 12:43 PM

He's still posting isn't he?

In regards to the debate....I've seen so many smear articles over the last 24 hours against Yang since it aired....guess he's doing something right.

Also, it disturbs me a little that CNN and WaPo called Gabbard a Russian asset for the mere suggestion that maybe we shouldn't be warmongering across the planet.

OccultHawk 10-18-2019 01:01 PM

I love that jet black hair look. She’s fine. **** her “service” and politics though. All she has worth a **** is a vagina. The rest of her belongs in a ****ing ditch.

Mindfulness 10-18-2019 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2084429)
I had to pause and wank when gabbard was on. If she’d parade around topless on a horse like Putin I’d throw a buck in her g-string.

https://i.imgur.com/L3YdGxb.png

OccultHawk 10-18-2019 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mindfulness (Post 2084453)

Take that goddamn uniform off and show us what you’re worth bitch

SIR YES SIR!!!

Mindfulness 10-18-2019 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2084454)
Take that goddamn uniform off and show us what you’re worth bitch

SIR YES SIR!!!

https://media0.giphy.com/media/gdTHQ...yk5/source.gif

OccultHawk 10-18-2019 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mindfulness (Post 2084455)

Why the **** isn’t there a dick in that bitch’s mouth

Jesus ****ing Christ

Mindfulness 10-18-2019 05:42 PM

https://img703.imageshack.us/img703/3787/jaydamn.png

debaserr 10-18-2019 05:43 PM

Shades of Elaine Benis and a Horse.

The Batlord 10-18-2019 05:52 PM

That gray streak in her hair bumps her from a 9 to a 10.

Mindfulness 10-18-2019 06:41 PM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2vhxWfQieY

OccultHawk 10-18-2019 06:43 PM

Why do the Turks hate the Kurds so ****ing much?

The Batlord 10-18-2019 06:48 PM

The Iraqis or at least Saddam too. Are the Kurds secretly *******s which is why the only one they can turn to is us?

jwb 10-18-2019 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2084492)
Why do the Turks hate the Kurds so ****ing much?

everyone in the region hates the Kurds, from Turkey to Iran to Syria to both the Sunni and Shia elements of Iraq.

Why? Cause when the English and French partitioned the middle East into countries, they did so haphazardly. And many conflicting ethnic groups got lumped into a single country, like Iraq with the Kurds, Sunnis and Shiites.

The Kurds are just one of those unlucky ethnic/cultural groups with a strong national and cultural identity, but no country. They are divided between turkey, Iraq, Syria, Iran. And they are loyal to their Kurdish identity and want a Kurdish state. Thus they are naturally treated as subversive in every country which they currently reside.

OccultHawk 10-18-2019 07:04 PM

So basically they’re just killing them for being a minority group because that’s how Muslims roll. Got it. Not talking **** on Islam though. Great religion. It’s just some of them. Wait... what country is that where the Muslims don’t act like ****ing halfwit barbarians again?

Frownland 10-18-2019 07:05 PM

The US.

jwb 10-18-2019 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2084498)
The Iraqis or at least Saddam too. Are the Kurds secretly *******s which is why the only one they can turn to is us?

Saddam also repressed the Shia majority and privileged the Sunni minority, in Iraq. The Baath party was made up of Sunni Iraqis.

That's why we had the insurgents during the 2nd Iraq war, which eventually turned into ISIS. After Bush toppled the Baath regime and deposed Saddam, they made the Baath party illegal and barred any members of the party from participating in the new govt. This meant a decisive shift from Sunnis to Shiites. The insurgents were as such Sunni rebels, as were ISIS.

The Batlord 10-18-2019 07:10 PM

Do they actually have a territory that could be turned into its own country or are they a diaspora?

The Batlord 10-18-2019 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2084504)
So basically they’re just killing them for being a minority group because that’s how Muslims roll. Got it. Not talking **** on Islam though. Great religion. It’s just some of them. Wait... what country is that where the Muslims don’t act like ****ing halfwit barbarians again?

Every culture does that. Isn't that part of why you hate America? It's part of why I think the human race as a whole is garbage.

jwb 10-18-2019 07:13 PM

They do, but it would be carved out of the 4 countries already mentioned. Hence the animus.

jwb 10-18-2019 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2084504)
So basically they’re just killing them for being a minority group because that’s how Muslims roll. Got it. Not talking **** on Islam though. Great religion. It’s just some of them. Wait... what country is that where the Muslims don’t act like ****ing halfwit barbarians again?

not just minorities.. but subversives to the state

Thus they are dealt with much like England dealt with the Irish Catholics, the Soviet Union dealt with Catholic poles, or Israel deals with Palestinians.

The Batlord 10-18-2019 07:24 PM

TBH a little reading on the subject makes the idea of the Kurds being our allies over the years into a cruel joke. Like they hope we'll help them but really they're just our pawns to use against whatever enemy we have in the Middle East at any given time even though we have no intention of ever truly standing up for them.

jwb 10-18-2019 07:31 PM

That's exactly it. We stood by and watched when Saddam gassed them, even long after we considered him an enemy. Then eventually aligned with them after we overthrew Saddam and the region plunged into chaos because they were natural enemies of the Sunni force ISIS, who would like to see the Kurds extinct. once that was no longer convenient we abandoned them to the slaughter.

The common term for the US among Islamic extremists the great satan. Well, you know what they say about making deals with the devil...

The Batlord 10-18-2019 07:36 PM

I mean we were allies with them in Iraq long before ISIS was ever a thing.

OccultHawk 10-18-2019 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2084511)
not just minorities.. but subversives to the state

Thus they are dealt with much like England dealt with the Irish Catholics, the Soviet Union dealt with Catholic poles, or Israel deals with Palestinians.

It absolutely befuddles me that there’s anyone in the world who doesn’t think Israel has shown incredible restraint. They should have fumigated that place decades ago.

jwb 10-18-2019 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2084515)
I mean we were allies with them in Iraq long before ISIS was ever a thing.

To what extent?

OccultHawk 10-18-2019 07:44 PM

When Saddam or Chemical Ali gassed the Kurds shortly after I was at a punk rock show where the band asked if anyone had anything they wanted to come on stage and talk about. I talked about how the gas killed the elderly and the very young most heavily and pointed out that at that time America was still manufacturing chemical weapons. I was heavily booed but one cute girl threw me a peace sign.

jwb 10-18-2019 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2084516)
It absolutely befuddles me that there’s anyone in the world who doesn’t think Israel has shown incredible restraint. They should have fumigated that place decades ago.

yea I have to disagree

They really shouldn't be there in the first place

For someone showing incredible restraint they're doing a hell of a job expanding and wiping out the native population

OccultHawk 10-18-2019 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2084519)
yea I have to disagree

They really shouldn't be there in the first place

For someone showing incredible restraint they're doing a hell of a job expanding and wiping out the native population

They still, perhaps ironically, have about 6,000,000 to go.

The gas used to kill the Kurds in Iraq was almost certainly manufactured in America. We were butt-buddies with Saddam then

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit...eapons_program

Our great friends the Kurds.

The Batlord 10-18-2019 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2084516)
It absolutely befuddles me that there’s anyone in the world who doesn’t think Israel has shown incredible restraint. They should have fumigated that place decades ago.

It befuddles me that you consider yourself an anarchist when you're clearly a fascist. The only reason you're against the American right is because they support capitalism and you're incapable of adapting to capitalism. If you could you'd be a diehard Republican.

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2084517)
To what extent?

You don't remember the early days of the Iraq War when we were all about the Kurds since the Sunnis were seen as the "insurgency", the Shi'ites were seen as exacerbating the sectarian violence via retribution, but the Kurds were the good Iraqis who stood with us and didn't truck with any of that ****?

OccultHawk 10-18-2019 07:56 PM

I’d be a hardcore libertarian

jwb 10-18-2019 07:57 PM

No. I'm not saying you're wrong, I didn't really care much for politics back then. First time I remember us seriously allying with the Kurds militarily was to fight ISIS

This is a good YouTube channel for geopolitics btw


OccultHawk 10-18-2019 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2084525)
No. I'm not saying you're wrong, I didn't really care much for politics back then. First time I remember us seriously allying with the Kurds militarily was to fight ISIS

We need to reconsider our relationship with ISIS.

The Batlord 10-18-2019 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2084524)
I’d be a hardcore libertarian

Yes you'd be an embarrassed Republican. And if you were young you'd be a gamer gater.

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2084525)
No. I'm not saying you're wrong, I didn't really care much for politics back then. First time I remember us seriously allying with the Kurds militarily was to fight ISIS


I believe it was more of the Kurds in the north being a bastion of stability in Iraq who'd put down any insurgency that we were appreciative of than any real joint military thing.

jwb 10-18-2019 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2084527)
We need to reconsider our relationship with ISIS.

Lol

Not serious?

They don't have any desire to be anything other than mortal foes.

jwb 10-18-2019 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2084528)
Yes you'd be an embarrassed Republican. And if you were young you'd be a gamer gater.



I believe it was more of the Kurds in the north being a bastion of stability in Iraq who'd put down any insurgency that we were appreciative of than any real joint military thing.

still, the video is worth watching if you want a break down of the purely cynical geopolitical forces at work in this conflict.

OccultHawk 10-18-2019 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2084531)
Lol

Not serious?

They don't have any desire to be anything other than mortal foes.

I respect their candor

Huge demonstration in Barcelona. Looks like I’m breaking even having bet on Pitt over Cuse.

The Batlord 10-18-2019 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2084532)
still, the video is worth watching if you want a break down of the purely cynical geopolitical forces at work in this conflict.

Yeah it's interesting and it always amuses me when the idea of public opinion influences policy even when public opinion amounts to nothing more than people at home who don't know anything screwing up their face and going "I don't like that" and nothing more. If the American public had no place in government decisions then there would be no talk of sanctions and real politik would proceed in at least a relatively consistent manner. But people who claim to care while not actually caring are probably about to tank the economy of people they definitely don't care about while American policy just a week ago implied the exact opposite position (a position which was presumably also influenced or at least justified by public opinion of not wanting to be involved in more Middle Eastern wars).

Democracy is stupid.


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