Political Discussions for "Adults"

Mindfulness · 08-20-2019, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

based on you literally saying you weren't going to vote for Bernie idk

his socialism platform will interesting to go against Biden. i dont think bernie will get the nomination and Biden will steal a lot of bernie's idea's or work together on them

debaserr · 08-20-2019, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mindfulness

his socialism platforum

Not heard of this one. Time to hit the books.

~~jwb~~ · 08-20-2019, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

how will Biden's history of racism compare to Bernie's participating in Civil Rights protests

that will sure be interesting

So far he's still in the lead with black people in the polls, even after the famous moment in the first debate. Being associated with Obama seems to be taking him a long way.

Mindfulness · 08-20-2019, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by debaserr

Not heard of this one. Time to hit the books.

typo

debaserr · 08-20-2019, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb

So far he's still in the lead with black people in the polls, even after the famous moment in the first debate. Being associated with Obama seems to be taking him a long way.

Ugh. Why can't people be better at knowing things.

The Batlord · 08-20-2019, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by debaserr

Ugh. Why can't people be better at knowing things.

Literally why democracy is a sham.

~~jwb~~ · 08-20-2019, 05:30 PM

Supposedly Biden does better with older black voters than he does with young ones, where as with Bernie the trend is reversed.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn...ics/index.html

That being said the same general trend applies to all races. Biden appeals more to the 40+ crowd and Sanders appeals more to the youth. And across the board Biden currently is the clear front runner in general, and even more so with potential black voters.

Older crowds tend to vote more in actual elections as well - which these polls don't reflect.

~~jwb~~ · 08-20-2019, 05:36 PM

Yeah but Sanders is still doing better with white voters than black ones. He needs to get aggressive here in order to win. His base has remained steady but he hasn't seen nearly enough growth.

~~jwb~~ · 08-20-2019, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

And yeah, young people vote at such abysmal levels that they hardly matter in most elections

even when a candidate gets a particularly high youth turnout it's still bad

on the other hand, the youth is used to the candidates in the general election being boring run of the mill politicians. The closest we ever had to a candidate that appealed to the youth was Obama in 08.

The real key part is somehow getting these people to vote in the primaries - which virtually nobody seems to do.

The Batlord · 08-20-2019, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb

on the other hand, the youth is used to the candidates in the general election being boring run of the mill politicians. The closest we ever had to a candidate that appealed to the youth was Obama in 08.

The real key part is somehow getting these people to vote in the primaries - which virtually nobody seems to do.

Probably because political talk is filtered through middle class CNN speak.

08-20-2019, 05:30 PM	#3197 (permalink)
~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	Supposedly Biden does better with older black voters than he does with young ones, where as with Bernie the trend is reversed. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn...ics/index.html That being said the same general trend applies to all races. Biden appeals more to the 40+ crowd and Sanders appeals more to the youth. And across the board Biden currently is the clear front runner in general, and even more so with potential black voters. Older crowds tend to vote more in actual elections as well - which these polls don't reflect.

08-20-2019, 05:36 PM	#3198 (permalink)
~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	Yeah but Sanders is still doing better with white voters than black ones. He needs to get aggressive here in order to win. His base has remained steady but he hasn't seen nearly enough growth.