Political Discussions for "Adults"

DwnWthVwls · 08-13-2019, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Bunches. If weirdos were a quantifiable, self identified group, then they would be marginalized too. You're saying that this is supposed to discount the marginalization of non-binary people?

So how is gender different when theyre all different arbitrary self appointed labels? If the majority of these crimes are targeting mtf/ftm than how marginalized are nonbinary genders?

**Frownland** · 08-13-2019, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

So how is gender different when theyre all different arbitrary self appointed labels?

There you go conflating the issue again. I'll let you try to work this one out.

DwnWthVwls · 08-13-2019, 11:33 AM

Answer the second question.

DwnWthVwls · 08-13-2019, 11:38 AM

“Poor white people are marginalized therefore white people are marginalized” #frownlogic

**Frownland** · 08-13-2019, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

If the majority of these crimes are targeting mtf/ftm than how marginalized are nonbinary genders?

Do you think it would make a difference to the people committing those crimes if you explained the difference between them? They're marginalized by real world impact.

DwnWthVwls · 08-13-2019, 11:45 AM

Yes. Do you think some ******* is gonna treat a male in transition the same as a college girl who identifies as nonbinary?

Again i believe its a lot more about the outward expression than the gender identity itself that bothers people. Which afaik there have been no good studies or stats for.

**Frownland** · 08-13-2019, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

Yes. Do you think some ******* is gonna treat a male in transition the same as a college girl who identifies as nonbinary?

Do you think that some ******* who harasses someone because they think that they're a male in transition will change their behaviour if they find out that the person that they're harassing is just non-binary?

Frankly your insistence on invalidating the oppression that nonbinary people experience and removing them from the LGBTQ community is a form of marginalization in itself.

~~jwb~~ · 08-13-2019, 11:51 AM

Tbh it depends on your environment

If you live somewhere liberal like parts of NYC or Cali then I think you get brownie points for being LGBT

But in certain communities there's definitely an animosity to it. Where I lived in Florida, we had 3300 kids in my high school and nobody was openly gay. Haitians, Latin Americans etc are very conservative on sexuality.

And I've seen something similar here in NC with Southerners, although it's not as severe cause times are changing.

DwnWthVwls · 08-13-2019, 11:52 AM

Frankly i never said they should be removed and i think ur annoyed u have bad answers to reasonable questions.

**Frownland** · 08-13-2019, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

Frankly i never said they should be removed and i think ur annoyed u have bad answers to reasonable questions.

You insinuated it.

Answer my reasonable question please. People committing the marginalization don't necessarily have to understand what they're targeting for them to marginalize a group.

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~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	Tbh it depends on your environment If you live somewhere liberal like parts of NYC or Cali then I think you get brownie points for being LGBT But in certain communities there's definitely an animosity to it. Where I lived in Florida, we had 3300 kids in my high school and nobody was openly gay. Haitians, Latin Americans etc are very conservative on sexuality. And I've seen something similar here in NC with Southerners, although it's not as severe cause times are changing.