He also doesn't present himself as an intellectual. In most conversations he has, he's the non expert on the subject. The only exception really is MMA and stand up comedy.

Quite funny him being an expert on stand-up though, given he doesn't have a comedic bone in his body.

I actually agree I don't really care for his stand up.

But the podcast is good.

I like his stand up and love his MMA commentary.

He’s not a split your sides laughing comedian but he holds my attention is an entertaining way.

I wanted to like his stand up cause I like his taste in comedy, but something about his delivery just puts me off.

I can see that. He sort of seems like a solid ass kicking might do him some good.

He definitely works hard but he's the type who's smart enough to get talked into joining a cult.

Cool.

What's so bad about joining a cult?

The fashion.

Ain’t no cult will have me.

That's really something you have to take on a cult by cult basis

Are you saying the right doesn't belong in this camp?
Taxes bad. Gun Laws bad. Abortion rights bad.
No exceptions on these issues. While if you take the big issue for Democrats right now, Healthcare, there are a range of ideas being talked about from Single Payer with private insurance banned, to just a public option or an Obamacare expansion.

Looks alright

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Medicare for All or ftfo

How dare you mention the non-Bernie plans? FASCIST!!!

When The Right gets behind something they seem to be absolutely uniform in that political conviction, probably to their benefit. Unless we're considering The Left to only be strident college aged Bernie socialists, I don't see the same level of purity.

Not really, no. The right would never give Steven Crowder **** for talking to some leftist. I mean there are exceptions and tribal behavior can prop up in any group, but the criticism I gave was based on and designed for the left. Very typical that the response to this is "we'll what about the right?" No, let's talk about your side for a second instead of instantly deflecting.

What's the benefit of letting blue tie conservatives muddle the uniformity of the genuine left?

Who says it's my side? I'm just going to be critical of a joke like Steven Crowder as a rational person should be.
The Right has its own problems with free speech, Colin Kaepernick? They've also made it a kind of taboo to simply call something that is racist, what it is.

The right's attempt to stifle opposing opinions typically comes in the form of telling a celebrity voicing their opinion to shut up and dance or they'll boycott their sneaker sponsor.

But let's look at what you actually said that you designed for the left

This obviously exists in spades on the left, but you genuinely don't see similar partisan demonization coming from the right?

Remember when Glenn Beck was the right's golden boy? Remember when he came out against Trump? Where is he now? Same place as the Dixie Chicks?

Glenn Beck is tied up naked in my closet???

More deflecting.

I didn't say the right doesn't react to ideas they they don't like. But the statement I made about checking allies for ideological purity based on who they talk to is something I'm seeing specifically on the left and specifically related to the Rogan topic. So I don't need to go look for a right wing equivalent when calling that out. Either you can defend it or you can't. So far you're just deflecting.

Not in the specific way I mentioned... But honestly I'm just tired of the defense always being to point to what the other side does. That really doesn't excuse what you choose to do.

It doesn't look to me that the criticism is simply that he has someone like that on the show. It's that his tone legitimizes a range of pretty asinine ideas. Do anti-vaxxers or climate change deniers, for example, really deserve a seat at the table?
It's not a Milton Friedman like character that gets people bent out of shape.

But the right does it too!!!!

The tone is perfectly reasonable. It's that he had right wing stars like Ben Shapiro, Jordan Peterson, etc.

People who, 10-20 years ago, the left would've approached with civility rather than smearing them as Nazis.

Hitler made the Jews clean Auschwitz!!!

Sounds like you don't want a right wing equivalent. What's the benefit of pinning what is clearly a larger issue of cultural divide driven by hyperpartisanship on one side over the other? Doesn't that just give the issue wheels?

In this case it was the left who were doing it.

What's the point in constantly resorting to whataboutism every time someone calls out specific behavior coming from your side

I guess if you make the first partisan accusation then you don't have to resort to a whataboutism later.

To show that it's a deeper rooted issue than the political ideology that the partisan is attempting to pin the blame on.

It's a simple cop out which is why I'm not entertaining it. In this case I get the same lame tactic used by left wingers and right wingers alike, anytime I criticize either side. It's one infuriating trait they do share.

He's long since denounced the conspiracy ****... Not familiar with what you mean by the race ****

Tbf centrists do it too. They might be the worst because they do it to both sides.

That’s why we need to silence the centrists. Very dangerous people.

Nah, it seems like a cop out to me.

Let's be clear.... It's a pattern I've specifically noted in the left. I haven't seen the same exact pattern on the right. Maybe it's out there, maybe it's not, I'm not going to go looking for an equivalent everytime I voice a criticism just to seem "fair." And you've yet to provide a real counter example. So I can't help but think..... You're just deflecting to turn the conversation away from criticism of the side you support.

Cheap whataboutism is all too common, but using that fact as an excuse to dismiss counterexamples is a lame cop out as well.

For sure.

I’ve never once criticized Islam without but but but... CHRISTIANS.

And I mean never.

Never ever.

Not if you want to actually discuss something in particular.

Also which counter examples?

Yeah you didn't learn a damn thing from the Trump debacle.