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jwb 03-25-2021 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3 (Post 2167399)
Occasionally I'll put up videos of him during the primaries in 2016 just roasting every other Republican on stage, and if I'm being honest, it's really great to watch Ted Cruz have to applaud at his own dunking.

It's more palatable now that he's gone.

One of the best one liners ever delivered on a presidential stage was when Megan Kelly was like Mr trump you call women fat pigs and disgusting... And he cuts her off with "only Rosie o'donnell". :D

TheBig3 03-25-2021 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2167455)
One of the best one liners ever delivered on a presidential stage was when Megan Kelly was like Mr trump you call women fat pigs and disgusting... And he cuts her off with "only Rosie o'donnell". :D

I think Rubio accuses him of hiring illegal labor saying "You're the only one on this stage who has hiring illegal help" Presumably thinking he was talking to Mitt Romney, and Trump goes "I'm the only one on stage who has hired people" and I remember thinking "Does Marco Rubio know which party he's in?

Of course the GOP crowd goes wild.

Psy-Fi 03-26-2021 05:06 PM


Lucem Ferre 04-05-2021 11:03 AM

Is Anteater more Marxist than we think?

Frownland 04-05-2021 11:14 AM

The technocratic cheerleading might qualify him per Postman

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Moreover, we have seen enough by now to know that technological changes in our modes of communication are even more ideology-laden than changes in our modes of transportation. Introduce the alphabet to a culture and you change its cognitive habits, its social relations, its notions of community, history and religion. Introduce the printing press with movable type, and you do the same. Introduce speed-of-light transmission of images and you make a cultural revolution. Without a vote. Without polemics. Without guerrilla resistance. Here is ideology, pure if not serene. Here is ideology without words, and all the more powerful for their absence. All that is required to make it stick is a population that devoutly believes in the inevitability of progress. And in this sense, all Americans are Marxists, for we believe nothing if not that history is moving us toward some preordained paradise and that technology is the force behind that movement.

jwb 04-05-2021 11:51 AM

The inevitability of progress huh.... How cute

Anteater 04-05-2021 01:41 PM

Pretty safe assumption tbh.

Lucem Ferre 04-05-2021 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2168686)
The technocratic cheerleading might qualify him per Postman

Exactly where I was going with it.

Karl Marx believed that we needed capitalism's innovation in industrialization to create the abundance that we didn't have before. Ant believes that innovating isn't finished yet. The only difference being that Ant believes (correct me if I'm wrong) we will naturally fall into a socialist society when work becomes obsolete while Marx believed that we can't truly have a viable socialist revolution with out the working class taking the means of production.

Anteater 04-05-2021 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 2168700)
Exactly where I was going with it.

The only difference being that Ant believes (correct me if I'm wrong) we will naturally fall into a socialist society when work becomes obsolete while Marx believed that we can't truly have a viable socialist revolution with out the working class taking the means of production.

That actually sums up my views pretty well. A revolution without the technological capacity to end scarcity after the guillotine gets cleaned off isn't going to help anyone. It's all about timing.

jwb 04-05-2021 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 2168697)
Pretty safe assumption tbh.

tell that to medieval europe after the fall of the roman empire.


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