Political Discussions for "Adults"

TheBig3 · 10-13-2020, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb

Could be any number of reasons, honestly.

Could be easier access to pills or more proficient dealers. Can be a drug couture that develops in certain areas. Typically economics and poverty has a lot to do with it but not always. Like I said Vermont is fairly wealthy and they have a pretty big heroin problem. South Florida where I grew up was always a big place for crack due basically to geography more than anything else. West Virginia is a massive place for pills for a number of different reasons. It's just kinda hard to imagine on the surface that a single rehab clinic is supplying an entire urban neighborhood with junkies. How big is this place exactly?

The rehab facility is not supplying an entire neighborhood. The area the clinic is in is the divding line between a very wealthy and an economicly depressed area of the South End of Boston. While there were junkies here before, certainly, it's absolutely a facility that treats a good deal of people from the greater boston region.

As for the examples you're using, that's almost entirely because of the additions generally starting from over-the-counter drugs. But that sort of proves my point - no one area is going to have a dramatic uptick in use for no reason. There would need to be a significant environmental factor for there to be an imbalance like we're seeing here.

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

From here:

I answered the question...where is the hate?

OccultHawk · 10-13-2020, 03:42 PM

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I answered the question...where is the hate?

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Originally Posted by TheBig3

No, in my neighborhood it's the human remains of the opioid crisis sadly. I live very close to a drug rehab facility.

Don’t even try to front like you weren’t blaming the place for bringing in people that make you uncomfortable.

Just own your shallow bourgeois hate deflecto

~~jwb~~ · 10-13-2020, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3

As for the examples you're using, that's almost entirely because of the additions generally starting from over-the-counter drugs.

I don't know what you mean by this.

Opiates are not available in over the counter drugs. They are available in prescription drugs. These addictions are largely fueled by pill mills where shady doctors sell scripts to drug dealers. When the pill head can't afford oxy anymore they turn to heroin.

In West Virginia, for example, there are basically no pill mills. There are strict laws around prescription drugs in the state to combat the epidemic of pill use. The biggest state for pill mills is Florida where the laws are more lax. At least this was the case when I lived there. We literally had dealers from WV driving down to Florida to get their supply because the demand for pills up there is so great and the supply is so limited.

This is my point. If you are saying it wouldn't be concentrated in one area, I gave you multiple examples where it is, and for varying reasons.

TheBig3 · 10-13-2020, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Don’t even try to front like you weren’t blaming the place for bringing in people that make you uncomfortable.

Just own your shallow bourgeois hate deflecto

I've lived in this neighborhood for 7 years, you clown. If it made me feel uncomfortable I would have left.

TheBig3 · 10-13-2020, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb

I don't know what you mean by this.

Opiates are not available in over the counter drugs.

This is my point. If you are saying it wouldn't be concentrated in one area, I gave you multiple examples where it is, and for varying reasons.

Yeah, that's me trying to do too much at once. They aren't over the counter. I meant they're available at pharmacies which I'm mentioning here because they're essentially operating on corporate supply chains - probably one of the most hyper-analyzed parts of corporate life. They'd distributed very efficiently.

As for what I mean by "it wouldn't be concentrated in one area" I mean OH's argument seemed to suggest the decision was made to put a clinic in an area where there are more junkies. That doesn't add up.

More people? Sure. But the idea that one area has more junkies than another - inherently - doesn't add up.

OccultHawk · 10-13-2020, 05:35 PM

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The biggest state for pill mills is Florida where the laws are more lax. At least this was the case when I lived there

Man it used to be like no one has to stay in pain. They’d ask you on a scale of one to ten...
Yak yak you say seven or above you’re at least getting Vicodin. Now it’s like you come in with spinal damage and they tell you to do yoga.

~~jwb~~ · 10-13-2020, 05:37 PM

That only follows if you think junkies don't typically concentrate in a certain area, which is why I listed a few (out of countless examples) where they do.

No offense but this seems like some amount of ignorance on your part. There is absolutely no doubt that certain areas have higher concentration of drug abuse than others.

OccultHawk · 10-13-2020, 05:38 PM

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I mean OH's argument seemed to suggest the decision was made to put a clinic in an area where there are more junkies. That doesn't add up.

Can you count to potato?

Why would they put up a methadone clinic where there ain’t no junkies?

**Frownland** · 10-13-2020, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3

As for what I mean by "it wouldn't be concentrated in one area" I mean OH's argument seemed to suggest the decision was made to put a clinic in an area where there are more junkies. That doesn't add up.

More people? Sure. But the idea that one area has more junkies than another - inherently - doesn't add up.

That's what you implied though.

~~jwb~~ · 10-13-2020, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Man it used to be like no one has to stay in pain. They’d ask you on a scale of one to ten...
Yak yak you say seven or above you’re at least getting Vicodin. Now it’s like you come in with spinal damage and they tell you to do yoga.

yeah it's been 10 or so years but back then it was the hub for dealers throughout the east coast. I figured they might've cracked down since then.

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~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	That only follows if you think junkies don't typically concentrate in a certain area, which is why I listed a few (out of countless examples) where they do. No offense but this seems like some amount of ignorance on your part. There is absolutely no doubt that certain areas have higher concentration of drug abuse than others.