Satanism
 

Yeah, my mind wanders off on some pretty weird, dark paths sometimes. I could explain the train of thought for this but I doubt anyone would like it (it's a little disgusting), but the upshot of it was that I started thinking about those who worship, or profess to worship, the very last person who'd be on God's Christmas card list. And I wonder: why? I mean, don't get me wrong: I have ZERO interest in selling my soul to Satan, but I wonder why people do worship the Horny Guy?

Thing is, if you worship God you (among other things) hope for good stuff to happen to you, for protection, success etc. Now, apart from the literal "sell your soul" deal, which I doubt (but don't know) that anyone has actually done, what's the advantage of worshipping the Devil? You get, and expect to get, nothing out of it except damnation and torment. Satan ain't a nice guy. (Disclaimer: for the purposes of this thread, let's assume Satan actually exists, or at least that the people who pray to him believe he does). He won't reward you, he won't be happy you're worshipping him. In fact, although my infinitisimal knowledge of Satan worship is based on what I read or see on the TV or in movies - most of which is probably garbage - his followers seem to WANT to be destroyed, mutilated, tortured. After all, even loopy ISIS fighters believe there's some reward waiting for them at the end; not so for Satan worshippers, from what I gather.

So why do it?

Anyone any insight, or wants to discuss?

Note: for anyone offended by this thread, may I just say I hope Satan eats your soul. :)

Satanism is hilarious.

It certainly is. You've got to give them points for costume though. :D
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i don't understand why anyone over 16 years old would want to be a satanist. there's a fine line between trying to be edgy and looking like a try-hard moron.

regardless of the values of Lavey's church (most of which actually align with Christian beliefs, just like, you know, without the god) the name in itself is just silly.

More like Objectivism. Do what you want to do and act in your own self-interest according to your own personal desires and moral code regardless of societal standards of conduct.

That's Batlordism.

Why do you think I sneer at Satanism? Why would I join people who just desperately want to be me?

When you put it that way it sounds kind of cool. Lol. So satanism boils down to another be yourself despite what everyone else thinks ideology? God knows the world needs those types of ideas.

Yeah basically. More a philosophy than a religion, and honestly the only connection with Christianity is the name. They don't even believe in Satan, God, or Jesus. The name is pretty much just a middle finger.

**** you, Lucifer.

Oh shit, the devil himself has a beef with Batlord!

That removes the mystique for me. I want to read the Lavey bible for curiosity purposes but this removes all desire I had.

Fuck yeah! I'm doing my blood sacrifice later tonight.

Whatever, lucifer. You're just mad 'cause Judas is in your mouth all the time, in more ways than one.

That's just Crowley's version you ethnocentric bastard.

Is this true?
#BattyisHardcore
My money's on Batty.

lol, lucifer got banned.

Batlord 1, satan 0

Sweet! Now to collect my winnings!

How's it different from Laveyan Satanism?

Laveyan Satanism is an extension of Crowley's Thelemic ****.

I was asking how my description was different from Laveyan Satanism, which is what I was talking about.

And Laveyan Satanism does not define satanism as a whole, which is why you are an ethnocentric bastard because you are exclusively familiar with what your own culture offers and that's a bad thing I guess.

Yeah but nobody knows what that **** is aside from Satanists, some college kids, and internet weirdos. Not much of a joke if there's nobody around to hear it.

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Yeah but your average person doesn't even know it's a thing or who Anton LaVey even is, so it's not so much going over their heads as it's in a dank basement ten miles away telling jokes to itself in the dark.

I would think that when [most] people subscribe to Satanism [unless they actually LIKE human sacrifices and shit like that], the ideals that they are ACTUALLY after would more closely resemble Luciferianism.

You... you don't believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster??? :confused:

To be fair, as ridiculous as it is, it's decidedly less ridiculous than pretty much every major religion.

Satanism is just diet Thelema. It was literally just a religion created to piss off and shock Christians before Lavey half assedly plagiarized Crowley to make it what it is today.

why?

Well at least it doesn't have people walking on water or whatever the **** is even going on in Hinduism. There's a dude living in a flower that's on top of another dude's head or some ****.

I was in love with Ayn Rand in high school. I think we went on a few dates but she wound up dumping me for a kraut.

Oh

And if I remember right, Satanism has more to do with self worship and hedonism than worship of Satan.

I'm going to go through my document library to see what I have on Satanism, Luciferianism and Thelemism. I'll upload them so we can all have a read.

people who interpret religious texts literally are morons, no doubt. but when you read the bible for the actual morals and lessons it attempts to teach through the story telling it's a compelling document.

it's like when you hear an atheist trying to argue with a christian and rather than address the actual religion they just misinterpret the bible to the point that they end up looking like the dumb one.

The book still says a guy walked on water. If nobody writing it ever actually believed that or thought that anyone should then the ****ing thing should have a disclaimer or something. How many millions or even billions of people have died cause the book wanted to speak out of both sides of its mouth and be unclear? Any book meant to dictate how you should live that is that easy to "misinterpret" ("misinterpretation" being a stupid concept for religion anyway, because the book doesn't make enough sense to interpret "correctly") is ****ing garbage. Maybe the Christians should show some common sense and start editing the damn thing themselves instead of being pussies who cut out large swathes of it in their own heads while still considering it somehow divine or whatever.

Bottom line, if you're a Christian then clean up your **** and don't get mad when one of the rest of us bitches at you when we step in it.

easy. all i'm saying is that the bible is a lot easier to make sense of when read as a collection of fictious stories with underlying messages rather than as a history book.

whether that's the way most christians see it i honestly couldn't care.

And yet plenty of people don't. That's on the Bible as much as them. You can't just be an apologist for a book cause these guys over here aren't so bad. You also can't say that the fundamentalists are necessarily wrong for interpreting the book in a way that it can actually be interpreted. That's just favoritism.

TBH I see the a lot of the "good Christians" as lazy atheists who don't want to let go of heaven and the idea that somebody up there is looking out for them.

And yet you side with them? If you don't care then don't defend their beliefs. I don't give a **** for the most part but I still think their book and their religion are idiotic garbage. I just don't throw my opinion in their faces.