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Old 12-06-2017, 09:27 PM   #151 (permalink)
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I don't think you comprehend it

for starters it's a stateless ideology

nothing about eliminating individualism that's standard propaganda
btw I hear this individualism thing a lot and it's actually an interesting question does the whole benefit the individual or the individual benefit the whole

but one of the major criticisms of Capitalism from my perspective is that in practice it is a "cog in a machine" type system in entirely comparable ways to what we can call "authoritarian communism" (e.g. Soviet Russia)

at least for the proletariat I see very little evidence that Capitalism fosters individualism it seems to iron people into particular molds on both the supply end as workers with one specific mundane skill that they will not perform under their own control

and on the demand end where billions are spent on generating uninformed consumers that champion the right corporate brands
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Old 12-06-2017, 10:20 PM   #152 (permalink)
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btw I hear this individualism thing a lot and it's actually an interesting question does the whole benefit the individual or the individual benefit the whole

but one of the major criticisms of Capitalism from my perspective is that in practice it is a "cog in a machine" type system in entirely comparable ways to what we can call "authoritarian communism" (e.g. Soviet Russia)

at least for the proletariat I see very little evidence that Capitalism fosters individualism it seems to iron people into particular molds on both the supply end as workers with one specific mundane skill that they will not perform under their own control

and on the demand end where billions are spent on generating uninformed consumers that champion the right corporate brands
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Old 12-07-2017, 07:24 AM   #153 (permalink)
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Ive only heard that argument used in the context of "you can be a cash making youtuber in America which would never be possible in communism". Therefore capitalism allows for individualism. Tbh idk, just regurgitating.
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Old 12-07-2017, 07:53 AM   #154 (permalink)
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It's so rare you get to do that or be an artist for a living or something

and even then of those few the successful are the ones that give up their individuality and pander for $$$ overwhelmingly
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You took that completetly out of context but im glad youve moved on from 1 word responses.
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just responded to the content of this whether or not you believe it
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You really didn't address the question at all, which was: does communism allow for creative means of personalized financial success? Lots of non big youtubers and streamers live off the couple thousand a month they make or use it as a secondary source of income. Not to mention, freelance artists, etsy business, ebayers, etc.. It all falls under the same "financial individualism" in question. Also, being a sellout =/= losing your individuality, even if we both agree its weak.
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You really didn't address the question at all, which was: does communism allow for creative means of personalized financial success? Lots of non big youtubers and streamers live off the couple thousand a month they make or use it as a secondary source of income. Not to mention, freelance artists, etsy business, ebayers, etc.. It all falls under the same "financial individualism" in question. Also, being a sellout =/= losing your individuality, even if we both agree its weak.
Itís irrelevant in my philosophy because money must be abolished.
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You know, Chula, you call Frown naive for supposedly not understanding how business works, but he's not the one who was doing business with a shady megacorporation that gave him the shaft and destroyed almost everything he'd built. Perhaps there's a lesson in there about how you conduct business and with whom.
Go flip a burger. $100 says your uniform/apron goofy hat, spatula, microwave, headset, fryer pan, etc. are made outside of the USA.

But at least you get your beer and cigarette money.

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You don't know ****, Chula.
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