elphenor doesn't know any non-white people.

That’s from Howard Zinn, isn’t it? I remember that passage vividly.

No it's not.

Do white people oppress women in the US? Theyre the majority.

The same way I am complicit in your stupidity if I don't correct every stupid little thing you say?

And if you gave it any thought youd recognize those same white men (in some cases they arent even white men) oppress anyone and anything that threaten the stronghold theyve created which has absolutely nothing to do with white people as a whole. White people happen to receive more advantages because of whos in charge but they are not responsible for the oppression itself. Its really not that complicated.

Can you give me an example of how youve oppressed minorities?

Are all non-white ethnicities too fragile to be held collectively accountable for the behavior of their ruling elite?

If not can we come up with some examples that we might be able to agree on?

I’m thinking maybe the treatment of homosexuals in Iran.

I respect that you admit they “haven’t evolved”

Racist af

Finally! Congratulations

Doesn’t it feel nice to just let it out

Whew! I bet that’s like 1000 lbs off your shoulders

That sig :D

lol

as if horrible atrocities committed by white people don't have “reasons”

wtf kind of **** is that?

Desperate for racism, shitting on Iran,
Blasting The Fall of Saigon as he watches the dawn.

I asked myself. Here's the conclusion I came to:

Edit: Yes it holds true in the colloquial usage, because if you look at the context, it uses "Europeans" as reference to the people who enslaved Africans, not everyone on the continent. It'd be hyperbolic and untrue if it were used in the same context you used "white people". You've already taken the position that EVERY white person is complicit, sooo another bad analogy? (Fixed)

Who's in charge doesn't come from the white majority.. it comes from years of history that his little to do with anyone alive today. You might as well be arguing that the people in nations with monarchies are to blame for who takes the thrown. All kinds of groups have little victories/defeats, but none of them are changing the American power structure.

Still waiting for that example of how YOU oppress minorities, whitey.

Youre really good at cherrypicking and avoidind addressing the points i continue to make. Care to address the meat of the issue and stop deflecting?

I mean do i really need to ask 3 times for an example of how you oppress minorities?

you completely ignored the second part of the response.

All you do is dodge and redirect. Answer the questions.

His shiny white skin once blinded a black man.

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Address the ENTIRETY of the statement. Stop cherrypicking. Lazy ass responses.

When you voted you reinforced the legitimacy of this culture of oppression.

There’s blood on your hands comrade.

They were imposed on white people who didn’t want to live in a Jim Crow world.

Well ive said it before and ill say it again. Youre a poor excuse for a polisci academic. Idk whats worse your inability to think critically or the psuedointellectual facade.

Ive been trying to have a civil discourse for the past few pages and all ive got in return is a bunch of lazy retorts. Adios.

That means goodbye gringo

Yeah im done here. There was a reason i stopped posting in these threads for months and ive been reminded again. Ill stick to discussing things with Frown and Xurtio.

I think he plans on being a politician. He's off to a good start with the interview process but he needs more beef.

If you are going to fault all Europeans for only a minuscule amount of persons who were owners of plantations that held slaves (there were also black plantation owners too) then conversely you should give credit to those Europeans and Americans who endeavored to end it - namely the Quakers in the US, who made an antebellum attempt that did not divert the prevailing winds of the Civil War.

ask yourself this

Where have you been these past seven score fifteen years?

Cause Linclon freed the slaves fyi. Yes, that is right. Chattel slavery was abolished in both Europe and America. This is not true throughout the world, even today. Sadly slavery still exist in Africa. The history of Arab slavery dwarfs European slavery both in terms of the amount of years and number enslaved.

Charles is in charge. It's Batlords fault.

elph says they’re less evolved so we can’t blame them it’s some sort of genetic inferiority type of problem

I do declare he shall give no rest to those white Southern plantation owners. The black plantation owners he's fine like Dandelion wine with, just not the white ones. I tell ya'll true, the devil can piss in his coffee and he'll blame the white man for it not being hot enough.

Why? Cause you can't "white shame" the Emancipation Proclamation?

Most people that "white shame" are whites.

A more important topic; Why are minorities always seen as 'white shaming' when they bring up discrimination of the past or discrimination today?

Even better, why are they called victims when marching against racially biased police brutality that doesn't get justice while so many white people act like being reminded of this country's racist history is the worst thing to possibly happen?

Why is it that Germany can openly discuss the atrocities of their history while America is too cowardly to actually truly acknowledge it with out quickly brushing over it?

Yeah you were civil, which was the only good part of the entire conversation.

They’re not.

Yep.

Like he went on to do for the rest of his post

Then you literally prove me right by accusing my of white shaming...

How many white people died fighting to free the slaves? How many white people stood up for the civil rights movement?

How many white people died to keep the slaves? How many white people stood against the civil rights movement?

Some people are good, some aren't. Quit acting like it's the evil white man that's holding you back. It's just evil that does.

I’m ashamed that you’re white.

It's kind of mind blowing to me that I never thought of it this way. Even though I know the outlines of what happened back then, historically.

Way more white people probably fought for slaves and segregation than fought against it though.

Ja but there are varying levels of evil and not all of the people who were complicit in evil had evil intentions, so it wasn't even evil that's holding you back, it's level ten evil.

More like level nine nawmsayin?

I don't.

True.

It's like the conversation is always about how white people are **** - and historical records will confirm if you broadbrush - but I don't know... Am I asking to be given credit for the small mercies? Honestly, I don't even really think of myself as part of "white people" as a group. I think of myself as a citizen of planet Earth and as a male first and foremost, I guess?

Not sure this reply makes sense, but the dots connected in my mind.