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Old 02-16-2020, 06:33 PM   #1871 (permalink)
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I guess nobody knows then lol

The question of is this course of action really in my best interest is pretty much the same thing I guess. Most of the time I wish I knew. I do know I’m better off not drinking and gambling though so if I try to justify that **** I’m not being honest with myself. For example, oh I got my bills covered so I can risk this bet - it’s a good bet blah blah blah. That’s not being honest with myself. Being honest with myself is more like I’m not clever enough to gamble successfully and over time I always end up down. So there’s that.
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Old 02-16-2020, 06:37 PM   #1872 (permalink)
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I think you've formed a mental health support clique in this thread and shut me out of it as I'm not supportive enough for you so even common sense advice comes off as the enemy. I mean rather than requesting that this thread be kept "safe" as is your normal thing you're actively engaging in poo flinging for the sake of winning an argument.
I dont know what argument I'm supposedly trying to win or at whom I flung poo... but this is the issue Charles you think you're giving common sense advice but it's actually just bad advice and I dont think you should be taking it either.
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Old 02-16-2020, 06:38 PM   #1873 (permalink)
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I guess nobody knows then lol

The question of is this course of action really in my best interest is pretty much the same thing I guess. Most of the time I wish I knew. I do know I’m better off not drinking and gambling though so if I try to justify that **** I’m not being honest with myself. For example, oh I got my bills covered so I can risk this bet - it’s a good bet blah blah blah. That’s not being honest with myself. Being honest with myself is more like I’m not clever enough to gamble successfully and over time I always end up down. So there’s that.
That's exactly what I'm talking about.
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Old 02-16-2020, 06:45 PM   #1874 (permalink)
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Old 02-16-2020, 06:55 PM   #1875 (permalink)
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I'm dubious of you and your tendency to get knocked down and not get up again and pissing the night away
I mean this right here is pretty clearly poo flinging. In any other thread I wouldn't bat an eye but in this thread I think you'd hold anyone else to the standard that it's poo flinging.

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but this is the issue Charles you think you're giving common sense advice but it's actually just bad advice and I dont think you should be taking it either.
I think giving someone with elph's recent history the advice that they should maintain a healthy distrust of "inspiration" is pretty good advice unless you're just trying to pick a fight with someone. I mean that whole nonsensical comment you made to me about gatekeeping suffering looked like picking a fight to me.

And I will leave it to you if keeping on with this conversation in the Mental Health Thread is worth it or you should try being the bigger man and disengage. *blows raspberry*
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Old 02-16-2020, 07:00 PM   #1876 (permalink)
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One of the mindfulness techniques I learned in DBT was a practice in ranking whether the decisions you've made over the past day or week have moved you toward or away from your ultimate goals. Even if your goals are just to make it through the next 24 hours, there's value in thinking of it as a tangible cause-and-effect grid. There is no use judging where you are or what you've done, all you can do is focus on right now and what you're going to do next.
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Old 02-16-2020, 07:03 PM   #1877 (permalink)
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One of the mindfulness techniques I learned in DBT was a practice in ranking whether the decisions you've made over the past day or week have moved you toward or away from your ultimate goals. Even if your goals are just to make it through the next 24 hours, there's value in thinking of it as a tangible cause-and-effect grid. There is no use judging where you are or what you've done, all you can do is focus on right now and what you're going to do next.
Nice. I’ll try that.
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Old 02-16-2020, 07:09 PM   #1878 (permalink)
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I mean this right here is pretty clearly poo flinging. In any other thread I wouldn't bat an eye but in this thread I think you'd hold anyone else to the standard that it's poo flinging.
Again, literally a light twist on chumbawamba lyrics lol
I'm sorry the joke fell flat and you were offended. I meant no malice.

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I think giving someone with elph's recent history the advice that they should maintain a healthy distrust of "inspiration" is pretty good advice unless you're just trying to pick a fight with someone. I mean that whole nonsensical comment you made to me about gatekeeping suffering looked like picking a fight to me.
Putting it in those terms is a lot different than "optimism is gay & chasing inspiration is a fool's errand."

And the gatekeeping comment wasn't even directed at you m8

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The manic bit is eh but not waiting for inspiration or the exactly pristine conditions to do what you want to do is great advice.
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On a different note (mental health related)....I remember a few years ago I met someone who had been some kind of hypnotherapist for 30+ years. He showed me videos of how he had taken guys who saw hell in Vietnam and the Gulf War and got them completely functional and off medication within just a few months. I'm not sure how much of it is BS or how many success stories he actually has, but if it works at all then that's pretty astounding.
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