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Marie Monday 11-21-2020 10:59 AM

Wait he has the virus? Lol

OccultHawk 11-21-2020 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 2145307)
C'mon, be honest now: did any of you grin just a little when you heard Hitler Jr sorry Donald Trump Jr had contracted the virus? ;)

If you read through the threads you’ll see just how brutal the anti-Trump posse rhetoric has become. It’s commonplace to wish death on their whole disgusting clan. I’d be somewhat surprised if anyone wanted Don Jr to survive. I certainly don’t.

The Batlord 11-21-2020 11:53 AM

Is Twitter going to have to restate their policy on not wishing death on people?

Trollheart 11-21-2020 12:01 PM

From CNN:

News Alert: Donald Trump Jr. tests positive for coronavirus
Donald Trump Jr., President Donald Trump's eldest son, has tested positive for the coronavirus, a spokesman told CNN on Friday.

"Don tested positive at the start of the week and has been quarantining out at his cabin since the result," the spokesman said. "He's been completely asymptomatic so far and is following all medically recommended COVID-19 guidelines."

Tested positive at the beginning of the week, announces it at the end of the week. How selfish.
Also, Rudy's son has it so he's off the trail for now. Oh, the humanity! Or lack of it...

Trollheart 11-21-2020 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2145312)
If you read through the threads you’ll see just how brutal the anti-Trump posse rhetoric has become. It’s commonplace to wish death on their whole disgusting clan. I’d be somewhat surprised if anyone wanted Don Jr to survive. I certainly don’t.

Damn right. I wished to a god I don't believe in that Der Fuhrer would not survive his illness. Sadly, it made him an Ubermencsh instead, at least, in his eyes and those of his dumb supporters.
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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2145321)
Is Twitter going to have to restate their policy on not wishing death on people?

Twitter can kiss my ass. Why aren't they cutting off Trump's access to their site? ****er is spewing more lies than Goebbels and Kim Jong whatever combined. There must be a tipping point somewhere.

The Batlord 11-21-2020 12:13 PM

Watching him struggle to breathe in obvious pain while he was lying about how tremendous he feels was pretty satisfying at least. Pretty sure he almost cried.

OccultHawk 11-21-2020 12:55 PM

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn...tor/index.html

Tucker Carlson backlash tells us something important about some Trump supporters

The Batlord 11-21-2020 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2145343)
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn...tor/index.html

Tucker Carlson backlash tells us something important about some Trump supporters

I can see that.

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Powell herself retweeted accounts attacking Carlson, including one that said Carlson had thrown "one of his Fox Globalist directed temper tantrums" and is "owned by The Syndicate."

Trollheart 11-21-2020 01:08 PM

Who'll bet against Rudy having a heart attack before the end of the year? The man is struggling to breathe, sweating like a pig AND has fat **** Trump on his back. He's headed underground no question.

Trollheart 11-21-2020 08:46 PM

Can we come up with a new name for Trump? I rather fancy Complainer-in-Chief...

Janszoon 11-21-2020 08:49 PM

I prefer to call him Fucknut

OccultHawk 11-21-2020 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 2145532)
Can we come up with a new name for Trump? I rather fancy Complainer-in-Chief...

No. Really. It’s killing us here all that ****. Let’s just hope I’m wrong and pretty soon we can put this nightmare era behind us. Not even kidding. It’s been ****ing awful here.

Anteater 11-21-2020 08:54 PM

I'll miss all the memes and neoliberal tears but Biden is here now and thus a return to 2008 - 2015 in regards to comedy.

The Batlord 11-21-2020 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 2145539)
I'll miss all the memes and neoliberal tears but Biden is here now and thus a return to 2008 - 2015 in regards to comedy.

Bitch you're a neoliberal. Being an entrepreneur cheerleader who thinks the future is in entrepreneur genius is pure neoliberalism.

Janszoon 11-21-2020 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2145540)
Bitch you're a neoliberal. Being an entrepreneur cheerleader who thinks the future is in entrepreneur genius is pure neoliberalism.

Maybe he misses watching himself cry?

TheBig3 11-21-2020 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2145540)
Bitch you're a neoliberal. Being an entrepreneur cheerleader who thinks the future is in entrepreneur genius is pure neoliberalism.

Wouldn't that make him a libertarian? I'm mostly asking because I thought he was.

Anteater 11-21-2020 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2145540)
Bitch you're a neoliberal. Being an entrepreneur cheerleader who thinks the future is in entrepreneur genius is pure neoliberalism.

Technology isn't going to stop racism, but it could prevent wonderful specimens like you from going extinct. :laughing:

The Batlord 11-21-2020 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3 (Post 2145542)
Wouldn't that make him a libertarian? I'm mostly asking because I thought he was.

Libertarians think that the free market is God. Entrepreneur worship neoliberals like Anteater reject that kind of dogmatism but think that great man theory bull**** means that people like him should technocrat the world into a better place that has the effect of libertarianism with the veneer of liberalism. It's the worst of both worlds.

Anteater 11-21-2020 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2145548)
Libertarians think that the free market is God. Entrepreneur worship neoliberals like Anteater reject that kind of dogmatism but think that great man theory bull**** means that people like him should technocrat the world into a better place that has the effect of libertarianism with the veneer of liberalism. It's the worst of both worlds.

That's a whole lot os strawmanning in one paragraph. I don't worship the free market or entrepreneurs.

TheBig3 11-21-2020 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 2145549)
That's a whole lot os strawmanning in one paragraph. I don't worship the free market or entrepreneurs.

Edited for decency: Any ideology you support?

The Batlord 11-21-2020 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 2145549)
That's a whole lot os strawmanning in one paragraph. I don't worship the free market or entrepreneurs.

I didn't call you a libertarian but you definitely think entrepreneurs are the great men who will give us top down salvation.

Anteater 11-21-2020 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3 (Post 2145550)
Edited for decency: Any ideology you support?

None. Ideology isn't going to mean much once we get past the singularity, so why commit?

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2145551)
I didn't call you a libertarian but you definitely think entrepreneurs are the great men who will give us top down salvation.

The people you lump together as "entrepreneurs" are literally just a means to an end. The birth of an AI that will render governments and society as a whole pretty moot is an inevitability. That genie is going to pop out of the bottle like someone dropped a Mentos in that **** and nobody is going to know what to do about it.

The Batlord 11-21-2020 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 2145553)
None. Ideology isn't going to mean much once we get past the singularity, so why commit?



The people you lump together as "entrepreneurs" are literally just a means to an end. The birth of an AI that will render governments and society as a whole pretty moot is an inevitability. That genie is going to pop out of the bottle like someone dropped a Mentos in that **** and nobody is going to know what to do about it.

"I don't have any ideology." - ****ing liar

OccultHawk 11-21-2020 09:35 PM

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singularity
Have we talked about Kurzweil?

Anteater 11-21-2020 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2145557)
Have we talked about Kurzweil?

I think we had a brief forum exchange about him before. Feels like a long time ago though.

TheBig3 11-21-2020 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 2145553)
None. Ideology isn't going to mean much once we get past the singularity, so why commit?

What do you do for work? And have you ever had to fix the copier?

Anteater 11-21-2020 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3 (Post 2145560)
And have you ever had to fix the copier?

Yep.

OccultHawk 11-21-2020 10:15 PM

I think mankind should try to apply Asimov’s laws to AI starting now. Do you have any thoughts on that?

Anteater 11-21-2020 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2145569)
I think mankind should try to apply Asimov’s laws to AI starting now. Do you have any thoughts on that?

Yep. They should think about those things now, but they won't. Even the smartest decision makers at the highest levels of government right now can't disseminate basic misinformation they see on Twitter. How will they handle autonomous, intelligent machines that far exceed our own mental capabilities?

The thing that's legitimately scary about today's world is that we live in a time where 99.9% of the population doesn't understand the technology that drives the economy, our supply chains, manufacturing, etc, much less these basic limited AIs that power social media.

So if some AI in some industry crosses the wrong threshold and gains both agency and actual awareness, that would probably spell the end of society within the next few decades. You wouldn't even need to wait for an environmental catastrophe, plus the rich won't know what to do about it either. Buying power can save you from a mob trying to break into your mansion, but it won't save you from something that could theoretically hack any system remotely and cause every airplane to crash around the world simultaneously.


Lucem Ferre 11-22-2020 02:28 AM

More like Antificial Eatelligence, M I right?

OccultHawk 11-22-2020 04:35 AM

A federal judge issued a scathing order Saturday dismissing the Trump campaign’s futile effort to block the certification of votes in Pennsylvania, shooting down claims of widespread irregularities with mail-in ballots.



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Giuliani and a Trump campaign lawyer said in a statement that they welcomed the dismissal because it would allow them to appeal up to the U.S. Supreme Court faster, where Trump has repeatedly said he feels he has sympathetic justices
This article paints it like a huge loss for Trump... I’m telling you, if you trust our Supreme Court you’re out of your goddamn mind.

Trollheart 11-22-2020 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2145535)
No. Really. It’s killing us here all that ****. Let’s just hope I’m wrong and pretty soon we can put this nightmare era behind us. Not even kidding. It’s been ****ing awful here.

Yeah I know man. I feel for you guys, I really do. I'm following it on CNN since before the election. Almost a soap opera here, but I know you people are living with it, and I assume in fear and dread, and I can't even think what it must be like. I keep hoping he'll just drop dead. No such luck.
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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2145600)
A federal judge issued a scathing order Saturday dismissing the Trump campaign’s futile effort to block the certification of votes in Pennsylvania, shooting down claims of widespread irregularities with mail-in ballots.





This article paints it like a huge loss for Trump... I’m telling you, if you trust our Supreme Court you’re out of your goddamn mind.

I think even the SCOTUS has to operate on the basis of evidence though, doesn't it? And there's about as much evidence as there are quiet reflective guitar passages on a Merzbow record. Yeah I said it Batty: wanna fight? ;)

If they go to the SCOTUS I think they'll just be laughed out of it. Remember, even though an Obama appointee, the judge who threw out the PA case is a lifelong Republican. Even they can't fashion a case for Trump out of anger and fairy dust...

Hey hey hey! Trumped-up charges! :D Surely someone has used this already? If not, I claim copyright.

OccultHawk 11-22-2020 06:00 AM

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I think even the SCOTUS has to operate on the basis of evidence though, doesn't it?
They ain’t has to do ****. That’s a norm. The law is whatever they say it is.

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Even they can't fashion a case for Trump out of anger and fairy dust...
Actually they can. They don’t have to be just or follow precedent or follow any sort of norm at all. It’s 100% up to them how they rule. They can wipe their ass with the evidence. They don’t have overseers. They are the overseers.

America is post-truth, post-normal - no system works without decency, norms, and sanity.

Trump has had three appointees. Three.

Lisnaholic 11-22-2020 06:07 AM

I'm a little more optimistic than you, OH, especially as I see more and more judges throwing out Trump's legal challenges. I don't exactly trust the Supreme Court, but I think, as part of the judiciary, they are going to side with the lower-court opinions and the weight of evidence -or rather the lack of evidence - that the election result should stand as it is.
As I've argued before, once appointed, a Supreme Court judge doesn't have to do what their sponsor wants; they've got the lifetime appointment, so they can make decisions with an eye on legal issues and their historical legacy, not just partisan loyalties. I think they'll be too scared to go against so much evidence and precedent suggesting the Biden win is valid.

A case in point: Remember how we were worried that one week after the election, Nov 10, the Supreme Court was going to dismantle the Affordable Care Act: that never happened did it ? For whatever reason, perhaps fear of backlash from the public, SCOTUS didn't go along with the Republicans agenda.

None the less, these are certainly nail-biting days, as we see the various Republican machinations flounder, only to be replaced by some new scam they have dreamed up.

To me, the villain of the hour is this previously obscure woman at the GSA, Emily Murphy, who has yet to sign off on Biden as the apparent winner of the election. I read that she is a principalled and consciencious soul, put in a difficult position. She has to choose: either (i) placate her lame-duck boss, delay the transition process and jeopadize the lives of thousands of Americans, or (ii) do the right thing by rubber-stamping the clear Biden victory. What a dilemma for the poor woman!!

EDIT: tldr? My post is what Trollheart said in half as many words.

OccultHawk 11-22-2020 06:28 AM

I read it.

What you might not get is this court has six Catholics.

I’m going to go full non-nuance because I don’t need any here. Calling yourself a catholic at this point is an open endorsement of of pedophilia.

That’s not the point. That’s just to point out how sick they are as human beings.

The point is abortion. They gotta get these babies born or who else are their clergy going to ****. They will do ANYTHING to overturn Roe. The possibility of Dems stacking the court and saving Roe is untenable to those weird perverts. They’re obsessed with it.

And they are 100% a political branch of the evangelical right.

And still that’s just one of Trump’s avenues.

OccultHawk 11-22-2020 06:31 AM

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Emily Murphy
I know about that ****ing mountain of worthless fat. Grind that repugnant bitch into pork sausage.

Frownland 11-22-2020 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by 'The New Situation,' Der Israelit, February 2, 1933 (translated)
Hitler’s cabinet, established on Monday at midday in Berlin, weighs heavily on the minds of all German Jewry and, in fact, all those circles that view the overheated rhetoric of today’s exaggerated nationalistic race fanaticism as an obstacle to human civilization and historical progress.

We do not subscribe to the view that Herr Hitler and his friends, now finally in possession of the power they have desired for so long, will enact the proposals circulating in the Angriff or the Völkischer Beobachter newspapers; they will not suddenly divest German Jews of their constitutional rights, lock them away in race ghettos, or subject them to the avaricious and murderous impulses of the mob. They not only cannot do this because many other crucial factors hold their powers in check, ranging from the Reich president to some of the political parties affiliated with them, but they also clearly do not want to go this route, for when one acts as a European world power, the whole atmosphere is more conducive to ethical reflection upon one’s better self than to revisiting one’s earlier oppositional role: operating as a European world power means that one seeks an enduring place in the harmonious exchange of peoples of culture. And beyond that, it is clear that the powers at Wilhelmstrasse no longer see demagogic appeals designed to heat up mass gatherings of the Volk as strictly necessary. The new Prussian Minister of the Interior [Hermann Göring] can perform a far greater service to the old comrades in arms and party friends by rejuvenating the huge, state civil service along National Socialist lines than by making open concessions to the brutal manifestations of hatred of Jews.

This isn't over until Donald Trump is dead.

The Batlord 11-22-2020 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2145620)
I read it.

What you might not get is this court has six Catholics.

I’m going to go full non-nuance because I don’t need any here. Calling yourself a catholic at this point is an open endorsement of of pedophilia.

That’s not the point. That’s just to point out how sick they are as human beings.

The point is abortion. They gotta get these babies born or who else are their clergy going to ****. They will do ANYTHING to overturn Roe. The possibility of Dems stacking the court and saving Roe is untenable to those weird perverts. They’re obsessed with it.

And they are 100% a political branch of the evangelical right.

And still that’s just one of Trump’s avenues.

See I know you don't think you need nuance, but you conveniently always never need nuance, almost as if all you want are simple issues you can get mad at like a Rush Limbaugh listener.

OccultHawk 11-22-2020 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2145624)
This isn't over until Donald Trump is dead.

That’s one of the most important historical documents ever written.

OccultHawk 11-22-2020 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2145626)
See I know you don't think you need nuance, but you conveniently always never need nuance, almost as if all you want are simple issues you can get mad at like a Rush Limbaugh listener.

I think it’s convenient how nuance is always used to water **** down.


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