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View Poll Results: How do you feel about guns?
Don't tread on me: keep your hands off my weapons, Feds! 0 0%
Ban assault weapons 1 12.50%
Ban all guns 5 62.50%
Some changes should be made to make gun ownership safer and more responsible 2 25.00%
Other (specify in your post) 0 0%
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Old 01-29-2021, 12:49 PM   #21 (permalink)
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In Florida they ask your name, you show your ID, and come back three days later and buy whatever you can afford. The only ones they deny are felons. You can be crazier than a bag of angel dust. If you got a name and an ID and money you can buy enough guns to arm Uganda.
What have they got against cats having guns? Oh. OH! FELONS....
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Old 01-30-2021, 05:48 AM   #22 (permalink)
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I know it's not possible but I voted to ban all guns.

Americans simply cannot be trusted to behave so it's the best option.
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Old 01-30-2021, 10:03 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Yeah. If they don't play nice take away their toys. They can have them back when they learn there's a world outside of their borders.
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Old 01-30-2021, 10:25 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Wuddya mean? We've been destabilizing everything outside of our borders for years, y'all are literally on the radar.
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Old 01-30-2021, 06:49 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Yes. If the government completely disarms I will too. I genuinely mean it when I say I want to ban all guns. There has to be a sane process though.

Right now we have a system that allows power hungry senile angry narcissistic lunatics (and that’s ANY president) access to the nuclear football. That’s insane. There’s a starting point and it’s not my revolver. My revolver is literally last. But unlike other gun control advocates I have a sincere position to eliminate ALL guns and all weaponry from the planet. I believe in banning ALL guns.
let's just do a magic potion to make people less violent while we're at it

You're playing in a purity politics contest while "other gun control advocates" are actually trying to get something done.

So you can have your purity. It means nothing. The fact of the matter is yes while obliviously we would be better off without citizens owning guns, that's not in the cards because of the constitution and the political realities of america. And while we might even be better off without any governments or militaries existing in a hypothetical paradise where humans can be trusted not to rape and pillage... We live in the real world where that is once again a non starter.

So in the meantime we have one issue which we could look at which is that the homicide rate in the US is much higher than other western countries because of the prevalence of guns and because of how easy it is to leak guns onto the black market through straw purchases.

A true way to do gun control in an effective manner is like mindy said, maintaining a proper registry/database of legal guns and making it harder for said legal guns to change hands without setting off a red flag. That could at least make it not as easy to get illegal guns with the serial numbers scratched of sold for the expressed purpose of committing gang murders that can't be traced through ballistic forensics.

But of course instead of that we will debate the hypothetical possibility that we need our guns to fight off a tyrannical govt and how said database is just the first step of the govt systematically disarming the populace so they can freely trample on our rights. So, in short, we deserve every shooting that happens because we **** our selves over with these pointless culture wars instead of trying to pragmatically solve a very real and obvious problem.
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That's a hell of a well-thought-out and effectively presented post, jwb, and it does serve to illustrate the dichotomy of a country that professes itself the guardian of global democracy and yet is the only one (so far as I know; could be wrong but certainly one of the few) where people can happily roam the streets with guns (concealed or otherwise) and not be approached by the police for carrying what could be a potential murder weapon.
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Change is hard tho
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Old 01-30-2021, 07:17 PM   #28 (permalink)
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And while we might even be better off without any governments or militaries existing in a hypothetical paradise where humans can be trusted not to rape and pillage...
Do you live in a hypothetical world where governments don’t rape and pillage?

Maybe the internet reaches parallel universes and I didn’t realize.
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It doesn't matter. They aren't going anywhere.
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See, you Americans are weird. As far as I know, in no other country is it legal for a private citizen to carry a gun;
I guess you don't consider Switzerland a country?
You Irish are weird you don't think about continental Europe. It's all about Ireland and the land of the leprechauns -- wherever they live.
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