Second Amendment Discussion

OccultHawk · 01-30-2021, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

Switzerland bans automatic firearms and also has a quarter of the gun ownership of the US

even still they voted to tighten firearm regulations within the last few years

the compulsory military service is the reason they have armed citizens to begin with, not the gun nut culture the US has

Nice to know they only have guns because they’re fascist.

Or is conscription not fascist?

~~jwb~~ · 01-30-2021, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

Switzerland bans automatic firearms and also has a quarter of the gun ownership of the US

even still they voted to tighten firearm regulations within the last few years

the compulsory military service is the reason they have armed citizens to begin with, not the gun nut culture the US has

automatic guns are also banned here. Unless you have a specific permit which very few people have.

But the real difference is Switzerland probably doesn't have the kind of gang violence we do. There are plenty of rural gun toting states where the murder rate also isn't an issue.

OccultHawk · 01-30-2021, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

which people

I don't get a hard on for guns

You’re an outlier that actually supports full nuclear disarmament. So everyone but you, I guess. I’d like to see them off the planet but I’m hard af for guns. If it happens I guess I’ll have to start jacking off to knives.

OccultHawk · 01-30-2021, 08:46 PM

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automatic guns are also banned here

They won’t keep firing if you hold the trigger down but they’ll fire as fast as you can pull it and with a real light trigger that’s really really really ****ing fast

Just to be clear. The kids on the playground don’t stand a chance.

~~jwb~~ · 01-30-2021, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

They won’t keep firing if you hold the trigger down but they’ll fire as fast as you can pull it and with a real light trigger that’s really really really ****ing fast

Just to be clear. The kids on the playground don’t stand a chance.

automatic literally means you can just hold the trigger down

but as far as mass shootings go.... just about any semi auto gun will do. you don't need an AR-15... a standard issue 9 mm glock pistol with a few spare clips is more than sufficient to murder a couple dozen unarmed civilians.

Neapolitan · 01-30-2021, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Do you live in a hypothetical world where governments don’t rape and pillage?

Maybe the internet reaches parallel universes and I didn’t realize.

Good reason to carry, to prevent "rape and pillage." Plus one for the Second Amendment.

~~jwb~~ · 01-30-2021, 10:37 PM

Also a good reason to carry and promote "rape and pillage"

Plus one for team satan.

OccultHawk · 01-30-2021, 11:52 PM

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automatic literally means you can just hold the trigger down

adidasss · 01-30-2021, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

See, you Americans are weird. As far as I know, in no other country is it legal for a private citizen to carry a gun; the only people allowed to be armed are certain police and the military. So how do you - non-Americans too - feel about the 2nd Amendment? Does it need to be tightened up? Is it fine as it is? Should I just raise my hands and back slowly away?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overvi...laws_by_nation

Basically, it looks like in most of the world it is allowed for private citizens to own a weapon, but only in the US and Yemen can you own a weapon without any license whatsoever.

I think the difference is that people in Europe just don't have the same culture of owning weapons.

Trollheart · 01-31-2021, 05:34 AM

It's also a point of note that most, perhaps all, police forces other than the US have only a special armed unit who carry weapons. Your average Guard, Bobby or Gendarme does not. So with police not being armed as a matter of course, certainly that shifts the balance of power against them but it also means your average criminal knows he can probably get away doing a robbery etc without a gun. From their point of view, I guess, the more chance you have of being shot at, the more reason to bring a gun to the party. Like you say, the rest of us just don't have that gun culture. I don't hear of gun clubs in Ireland (though they may exist) and there are certainly no gun shows, or shops.

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01-31-2021, 05:34 AM	#40 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,996	It's also a point of note that most, perhaps all, police forces other than the US have only a special armed unit who carry weapons. Your average Guard, Bobby or Gendarme does not. So with police not being armed as a matter of course, certainly that shifts the balance of power against them but it also means your average criminal knows he can probably get away doing a robbery etc without a gun. From their point of view, I guess, the more chance you have of being shot at, the more reason to bring a gun to the party. Like you say, the rest of us just don't have that gun culture. I don't hear of gun clubs in Ireland (though they may exist) and there are certainly no gun shows, or shops. __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

01-30-2021, 10:37 PM	#37 (permalink)
~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	Also a good reason to carry and promote "rape and pillage" Plus one for team satan.