Any Pagans here?

~~jwb~~ · 07-20-2022, 10:59 AM

Bart Ehrman makes the point that the only better attested person who lived in 1st century Palestine was Josephus, who is only better attested because he left his own writing.

**Frownland** · 07-20-2022, 11:16 AM

What about Tiberius?

The Batlord · 07-20-2022, 11:29 AM

Is that a deed nuts joke?

~~jwb~~ · 07-20-2022, 11:39 AM

If it's a joke I don't get it.

I don't think Tiberius lived in 1st century Palestine from what I gather.

music_collector · 07-20-2022, 12:15 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjaqrPpdQYc

**Frownland** · 07-20-2022, 12:38 PM

Nah I'm just dumb he lived in Italy.

~~jwb~~ · 07-20-2022, 05:25 PM

I don't agree really. Not the biblical version of events. Jesus had little to no antagonism towards or problems with Roman authorities prior to the crucifixion. According to the new testament the people he pissed off were Jewish religious authorities specifically. And the areas where he is somewhat subversive it's more aimed at religious tradition than anything else.

Trollheart · 07-20-2022, 06:43 PM

Yeah it's really a case of God, through his sprog, saying to the Jews "You guys think you have it all figured out but this is how it is." And the Jews going "Oh yeah? Well, what if we just crucify your son, huh?" And then God "You'd better not, or all my followers will hate you throughout eternity." Jews shrug. "Meh. What's the worst thing that could happen?"

Ayn Marx · 07-21-2022, 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Yeah it's really a case of God, through his sprog, saying to the Jews "You guys think you have it all figured out but this is how it is." And the Jews going "Oh yeah? Well, what if we just crucify your son, huh?" And then God "You'd better not, or all my followers will hate you throughout eternity." Jews shrug. "Meh. What's the worst thing that could happen?"

https://historyofyesterday.com/a-con...n-e21b7f624222

07-20-2022, 11:16 AM	#62 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,548	What about Tiberius? __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

07-20-2022, 12:38 PM	#66 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,548	Nah I'm just dumb he lived in Italy. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

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Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,970	Yeah it's really a case of God, through his sprog, saying to the Jews "You guys think you have it all figured out but this is how it is." And the Jews going "Oh yeah? Well, what if we just crucify your son, huh?" And then God "You'd better not, or all my followers will hate you throughout eternity." Jews shrug. "Meh. What's the worst thing that could happen?" __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

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07-20-2022, 10:59 AM	#61 (permalink)
~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	Bart Ehrman makes the point that the only better attested person who lived in 1st century Palestine was Josephus, who is only better attested because he left his own writing.

07-20-2022, 11:39 AM	#64 (permalink)
~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	If it's a joke I don't get it. I don't think Tiberius lived in 1st century Palestine from what I gather.

07-20-2022, 12:15 PM	#65 (permalink)
music_collector Music Addict Join Date: Apr 2022 Location: Canada Posts: 757	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjaqrPpdQYc

07-20-2022, 05:25 PM	#67 (permalink)
~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	I don't agree really. Not the biblical version of events. Jesus had little to no antagonism towards or problems with Roman authorities prior to the crucifixion. According to the new testament the people he pissed off were Jewish religious authorities specifically. And the areas where he is somewhat subversive it's more aimed at religious tradition than anything else.