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Old 04-14-2008, 06:33 PM   #11 (permalink)
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SMD is LRD lite? Wow...
Hello? Did you listen to SMD's last album? I'm amazed you can accuse LRD of being cheesy 90s dance music and not see how SMD are basically doing the same thing.

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That's exactly what the difference is... Plus, unlike LRD, Daft Punk doesn't suck.
You haven't given a reason why this is somehow magically closer to early 90s jock jams than any Daft Punk song is. Darkdancer is basically a Big Beat version of Discovery.

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No they really don't. There's a pretty big difference between disco and Big beat. Yes it is, and I certainly would complain if someone followed up Elektrobank with Dreamin'.
Hence the word "more disco," obviously I would never consider LRD disco, I was just pointing out that yes, they have more of a disco influence than The Prodigy, Chemical Brothers, etc. I don't see how anyone could fail to see how a song like "Hey You What's That Sound" could easily slot alongside a Fatboy Slim one. And keep in mind he was the one that invented the term Big Beat in the first place, and easily the genre's most recognizable name. You're forgetting that all Big Beat isn't made up entirely of The Chemical Brothers and the Prodigy.

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That's gotta be the funniest shit I've heard all day. As far as electronic music is concerned, lounge/trip-hop/chillout and big beat are pretty much the polar opposites...
You seem to have trouble understanding the fact that groups frequently fall under more than one genre, as well as the history of British dance music in the 90s. Trip-Hop and Chillout aren't even the same thing.

Aside from the fact that Fatboy Slim's remix of "I See You Baby" is one of the most well-known Big Beat songs (which is why I said they were more Trip-Hop, but also lumped them in with Big Beat, because they were), Trip-Hop and Big Beat, along with taking many of the same influences, were arguably the two most popular electronic genres of the 90s and occupied a pretty similar space in mainstream music.
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Old 04-15-2008, 04:01 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Hello? Did you listen to SMD's last album? I'm amazed you can accuse LRD of being cheesy 90s dance music and not see how SMD are basically doing the same thing.
Not to my ears.
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You haven't given a reason why this is somehow magically closer to early 90s jock jams than any Daft Punk song is. Darkdancer is basically a Big Beat version of Discovery.
Yes I have actually, it's bolded...plus I gave an example of what the album reminded me off. Daft punk don't remind me of cheesy dance music. I don't see anything Big beat about Darkdancer but if that's a Big beat album, then every electro act with a dance beat is a big beat act, including DP, so I'm not sure your analogy works. :\


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Hence the word "more disco," obviously I would never consider LRD disco, I was just pointing out that yes, they have more of a disco influence than The Prodigy, Chemical Brothers, etc. I don't see how anyone could fail to see how a song like "Hey You What's That Sound" could easily slot alongside a Fatboy Slim one. And keep in mind he was the one that invented the term Big Beat in the first place, and easily the genre's most recognizable name. You're forgetting that all Big Beat isn't made up entirely of The Chemical Brothers and the Prodigy.
Ok, I still hear the cheesy synth and vocals though, I can't think of any Fatboy slim songs that sound like that.

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You seem to have trouble understanding the fact that groups frequently fall under more than one genre, as well as the history of British dance music in the 90s. Trip-Hop and Chillout aren't even the same thing.
I see them being labeled as all three things, but I'm not gonna pretend to know the difference.

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Aside from the fact that Fatboy Slim's remix of "I See You Baby" is one of the most well-known Big Beat songs (which is why I said they were more Trip-Hop, but also lumped them in with Big Beat, because they were), Trip-Hop and Big Beat, along with taking many of the same influences, were arguably the two most popular electronic genres of the 90s and occupied a pretty similar space in mainstream music.
If you say so. I still don't see a particular connection between Darkdancer and Vertigo...or how either are big beat albums...:\

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Old 04-15-2008, 12:26 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I liked that LRD album but c'mon, SMD is WAY better than them. They're pretty much a total joke compared to SMD.



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Old 04-15-2008, 06:40 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Not to my ears.
Are you kidding? Outside of "Hustler" SMD is pure 90s. The whole album is super gimmicky.


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Yes I have actually, it's bolded...plus I gave an example of what the album reminded me off. Daft punk don't remind me of cheesy dance music. I don't see anything Big beat about Darkdancer but if that's a Big beat album, then every electro act with a dance beat is a big beat act, including DP, so I'm not sure your analogy works. :\
Really? "One More Time" doesn't remind you of cheesy dance music? Because, as big a DP fan as I am, that song strikes me as a hell of a lot cheesier than anything on Darkdancer. It's tacky, almost.

I think you and I have very different definitions of what Big Beat is. I don't really see Chem Bros, etc. as the "quintessential" Big Beat group, because it extends much further than that.

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Ok, I still hear the cheesy synth and vocals though, I can't think of any Fatboy slim songs that sound like that.
Did you listen to the whole album or just the first song? Because much of the album has the Hip-Hop, Electro, and Breaks influences that Fatboy Slim (and Big Beat) is known for.
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Old 04-16-2008, 01:58 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Are you kidding? Outside of "Hustler" SMD is pure 90s. The whole album is super gimmicky.
I can only find a slight connection to SMD in MDC Vendredi...I suppose I see a great difference between 90's rave influenced dance and cheesy 90's dance... Not all songs are like that I'll give you that, but the ones that are (Hypnotize, Music makes you lose control, Hey you what's that sound, Take a little time) are enough to ruin the experience. Plus, really, I love all the aforementioned artists you connected him with, but I can't say I took to this album. I realize what he was going for but it just didn't achieve that effect for me...I'd say only Jacques your body and Soft machine stood the test of time. Take a little time probably would have topped some 80's charts...If you add the annoyance of From disco to disco and Sometimes it doesn't add up to a particularly pleasurable listening experience.*shrugs*

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Really? "One More Time" doesn't remind you of cheesy dance music? Because, as big a DP fan as I am, that song strikes me as a hell of a lot cheesier than anything on Darkdancer. It's tacky, almost.
Discovery is more influenced by late 70's early 80's disco than late 80's early 90's dance, especially that song. So I wouldn't say it's tacky, more like retro.
As far as the Discovery connection, I only maybe see it on About funk...

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I think you and I have very different definitions of what Big Beat is. I don't really see Chem Bros, etc. as the "quintessential" Big Beat group, because it extends much further than that.
Ok, I realize that, but take Fatboy slim, he had pretty recognizable, hard hitting beats which really stood out in a song (Right here, right now, Rockafella skank, Love island) and I'm just not seeing that here. Not to mention that You've come a long way baby is a 10 times better album than Darkdancer no matter how you spin it.

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Did you listen to the whole album or just the first song? Because much of the album has the Hip-Hop, Electro, and Breaks influences that Fatboy Slim (and Big Beat) is known for.
I have, many times over and again, wouldn't really compare the two.

Anyway...I think I've given this album more attention than it deserves. To each their own.
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