Smoking in Bars/Public Places? Yea or Nay? (rock, single)

half_baked87 · 01-18-2006, 04:07 PM

i'm for smoking in bars and restaurants, as long as its a designated smoking area, as not to infringe on other people.

riseagainstrocks · 01-18-2006, 04:08 PM

I so knew this was coming.

As I said before, I am against it in places where it affects non smokers. I choose not to smoke. I don't care if others do it, as longs as I, as a non smoker don't have to breathe it in.

Sneer · 01-18-2006, 04:10 PM

ok, carrying on from that thread, i understand you perfectly, but your saying its your right to smoke in a bar if you want to? thus implying you have the right to share your toxic fumes with non-smokers and damaging their health in the process. the way i see it, if you want to smoke, fine. your choice. but do it in your own homes so the only people your damaging is yourself.

half_baked87 · 01-18-2006, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by LedZepStu

ok, carrying on from that thread, i understand you perfectly, but your saying its your right to smoke in a bar if you want to? thus implying you have the right to share your toxic fumes with non-smokers and damaging their health in the process. the way i see it, if you want to smoke, fine. your choice. but do it in your own homes so the only people your damaging is yourself.

no, you didn't understand. and for gods sake, you're talking like inhaling a bit of smoke every now and then in a bar will give you the black lung, it's overblown. working in it everyday, yeah, it will cause problems. but anyways, my point is, i'm for it if it's a designated, ventilated area, so i don't "share my toxic fumes" with anyone else. when i didn't smoke i still felt the same way.

as an aside...what i find really retarded is that the legion members aren't allowed to smoke inside anymore, their 80 year old veterans for gods sakes, and they have to go out in the cold to have a smoke? bull****.

adidasss · 01-18-2006, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by LedZepStu

ok, carrying on from that thread, i understand you perfectly, but your saying its your right to smoke in a bar if you want to? thus implying you have the right to share your toxic fumes with non-smokers and damaging their health in the process. the way i see it, if you want to smoke, fine. your choice. but do it in your own homes so the only people your damaging is yourself.

thankfully, croatia hasn't cought up with this lates fad of banning smokers from bars and night clubs....in italy, you can't smoke in either....i would go crazy if i couldn't smoke while i'm drinking, whether it be a capucino or a beer....
i'm not gonna even argue this, i don't care about non smokers and how their health is affected by my smoking...besides, it's yet to be proven that second hand smoking has killed anyone.....

Sneer · 01-18-2006, 04:17 PM

inhaling a bit of smoke in one instance maybe, but think of the amount of times you go to clubs/pubs/bars in an average 70 year lifespan, eventually its going to catch up with you. i dont care if you (not you personally) smoke, as long as i dont inhale the stuff.

right-track · 01-18-2006, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by riseagainstrocks

I so knew this was coming.

You should post more in the 'sixth sense thread' RAR.

LedZep I'm a smoker and I agree with you.
It makes me uncomfortable if I feel my smoking is imposing on others.

Lately at work, moves are being made to ban smoking completely.
Currently we are allowed two, ten minute smoke breaks, providing it's off premises. If the smoke breaks are banned completely I will find that a breach of my free will. That irritates me.

I think smokers are being persecuted unfairly. Especially when you consider the pollution a single car contributes to the detriment of your health. They are incomparable, yet not a word said.

cardboard adolescent · 01-18-2006, 04:19 PM

I'd leave it to the discretion of the owners of the establishment, rather than giving away even more personal liberties to the government.

If a dude wants to start up a smoker-friendly restaurant, so be it. Who are we to say that that's illegal? If you don't like second-hand smoke, then go some place where they don't allow smoking.

In any case, I recognize the fact that a lot of people don't want to drown in the "stench" of smoke, but the whole second-hand smoke kills thing is vastly blown out of proportion. You'd have to be living in second-hand smoke for it to kill you.

Sneer · 01-18-2006, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by adidasss

thankfully, croatia hasn't cought up with this lates fad of banning smokers from bars and night clubs....in italy, you can't smoke in either....i would go crazy if i couldn't smoke while i'm drinking, whether it be a capucino or a beer....
i'm not gonna even argue this, i don't care about non smokers and how their health is affected by my smoking...besides, it's yet to be proven that second hand smoking has killed anyone.....

its common sense, its proven cigarette smoke is damaging, a smoker walks into a bar, lights a ***, smoke starts leaving the stick full of the toxins, non-smoker inhales the smoke, goes into lungs. i agree when people say one instance of inhaling smoke is nothing, what im saying is the long term affects cannot be good (im not even saying it'll kill you, im just saying its detrimental) if it happens to you regularly in your life.

adidasss · 01-18-2006, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by LedZepStu

inhaling a bit of smoke in one instance maybe, but think of the amount of times you go to clubs/pubs/bars in an average 70 year lifespan, eventually its going to catch up with you. i dont care if you (not you personally) smoke, as long as i dont inhale the stuff.

who wants to be alive at 70?

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01-18-2006, 04:07 PM	#1 (permalink)
half_baked87 sammichestime Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 380	Smoking in Bars/Public Places? Yea or Nay? i'm for smoking in bars and restaurants, as long as its a designated smoking area, as not to infringe on other people.

01-18-2006, 04:08 PM	#2 (permalink)
riseagainstrocks Music Addict Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: DC Posts: 3,320	I so knew this was coming. As I said before, I am against it in places where it affects non smokers. I choose not to smoke. I don't care if others do it, as longs as I, as a non smoker don't have to breathe it in. __________________ One note timeless, came out of nowhere...

01-18-2006, 04:10 PM	#3 (permalink)
Sneer Let it drip Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 5,430	ok, carrying on from that thread, i understand you perfectly, but your saying its your right to smoke in a bar if you want to? thus implying you have the right to share your toxic fumes with non-smokers and damaging their health in the process. the way i see it, if you want to smoke, fine. your choice. but do it in your own homes so the only people your damaging is yourself. __________________ LastFM Sneer's Emporium of Sound Fright Team radio show

01-18-2006, 04:17 PM	#6 (permalink)
Sneer Let it drip Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 5,430	inhaling a bit of smoke in one instance maybe, but think of the amount of times you go to clubs/pubs/bars in an average 70 year lifespan, eventually its going to catch up with you. i dont care if you (not you personally) smoke, as long as i dont inhale the stuff. __________________ LastFM Sneer's Emporium of Sound Fright Team radio show

01-18-2006, 04:19 PM	#8 (permalink)
cardboard adolescent ;) Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: CA Posts: 3,503	I'd leave it to the discretion of the owners of the establishment, rather than giving away even more personal liberties to the government. If a dude wants to start up a smoker-friendly restaurant, so be it. Who are we to say that that's illegal? If you don't like second-hand smoke, then go some place where they don't allow smoking. In any case, I recognize the fact that a lot of people don't want to drown in the "stench" of smoke, but the whole second-hand smoke kills thing is vastly blown out of proportion. You'd have to be living in second-hand smoke for it to kill you.