Rape - Whose Fault Is It?

Lizzilee · 07-08-2013, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by tore

But do you ever think the victim of a rape has to take responsibility for getting victimized in the first place?

If you are talking about a western civilization then.....No.......
Why would they...........?
No means no.......regardless of anything...

With regard to other cultures.........we may not agree with their beliefs but their understanding of rights for women are and maybe different to ours...... so with that, I don't know. Other cultures have their own views on the rights of women........in some cultures it is acceptable. In ours, it is not.

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Originally Posted by tore

Is a rape the fault of the rapist, the victim or a bit of both?

The rapist........

~~Cuthbert~~ · 07-09-2013, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Fluffy Kittens

basically this shit happens all the time now.

Jilted woman who made FIVE bogus rape claims is jailed | The Sun |News

What a splendid woman.

BTW Newkie, Nile Ranger has also now been charged with rape.

Newkie · 07-09-2013, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Fluffy Kittens

Jilted woman who made FIVE bogus rape claims is jailed | The Sun |News

What a splendid woman.

BTW Newkie, Nile Ranger has also now been charged with rape.

Only two years? She should have had two years per victim in my books. Newport crown court as well, so she's a local? Best be avoiding any one night stands with her then

As for Ranger I can believe he'd be guilty. He's already beaten up his girlfriend and smashed her house in, he's a complete and utter ****. But there are plenty of baseless ones over footballers so maybe its someone getting on the bandwagon?

~~Cuthbert~~ · 07-09-2013, 05:36 PM

That's what I think and all. The guy's a bell-end, he has actually been arrested again for assault since being arrested for rape.

I can't find anything about the case other than the fact he's been arrested and charged, though.

~~butthead aka 216~~ · 07-10-2013, 04:54 AM

false reports should be minimum 5 yr sentences

Trollheart · 07-10-2013, 12:43 PM

The whole question is, of course, insane. There is no justification, mitigating factor or excuse for rape. Any that are put up are simply an indication of either overt or hidden misogyny. This crap about "Oh she was dressed like a slut so what did she expect" is simply that: crap. Nobody deserves to be attacked, raped, violated and after all if there were no rapists in the world there would be no rape. It's a sick crime and one of the most far-ranging, as a woman's life can be forever destroyed because one man (I use the term loosely) can't keep it in his pants or go jack off like anyone else. What the hell does anyone think gives them the right to force themselves on another, unwilling partner?

I'll tell you one thing: old testament as it may be, if they instigated castration as a default punishment for rape there'd be a lot less of it. We men love our dicks as we can only love ourselves.

TheBig3 · 07-10-2013, 04:54 PM

If you force yourself on someone sexually, its rape, and its your fault.

~~John Wilkes Booth~~ · 07-10-2013, 05:11 PM

I blame Obama.

djchameleon · 07-10-2013, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth

I blame Obama.

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~~butthead aka 216~~ · 07-10-2013, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

The whole question is, of course, insane. There is no justification, mitigating factor or excuse for rape. Any that are put up are simply an indication of either overt or hidden misogyny. This crap about "Oh she was dressed like a slut so what did she expect" is simply that: crap. Nobody deserves to be attacked, raped, violated and after all if there were no rapists in the world there would be no rape. It's a sick crime and one of the most far-ranging, as a woman's life can be forever destroyed because one man (I use the term loosely) can't keep it in his pants or go jack off like anyone else. What the hell does anyone think gives them the right to force themselves on another, unwilling partner?

I'll tell you one thing: old testament as it may be, if they instigated castration as a default punishment for rape there'd be a lot less of it. We men love our dicks as we can only love ourselves.

The only argument I'd make it FOR being the 'victims' fault would be in SOME cases of statutory rape AND if ya wanna get technical, a person has to actually consent (if i am believing correctly, please correct me if i am mistaken). So by technical terms, if two people go home from the bar together and get it on, by the woman doesnt explicitly say that she wants sex, i think that's rape (absurd for the most part, i know). as fr alcohol in general, if you are sober enough to remember it happening then i think you were sober enough to say no. i also dont buy the "too scared to say no' argument.

i think we all hear the word rape and picture a guy dragging a girl into an alley or something brutal but i think by legal terms it encompasses much more

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07-10-2013, 12:43 PM	#96 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,971	The whole question is, of course, insane. There is no justification, mitigating factor or excuse for rape. Any that are put up are simply an indication of either overt or hidden misogyny. This crap about "Oh she was dressed like a slut so what did she expect" is simply that: crap. Nobody deserves to be attacked, raped, violated and after all if there were no rapists in the world there would be no rape. It's a sick crime and one of the most far-ranging, as a woman's life can be forever destroyed because one man (I use the term loosely) can't keep it in his pants or go jack off like anyone else. What the hell does anyone think gives them the right to force themselves on another, unwilling partner? I'll tell you one thing: old testament as it may be, if they instigated castration as a default punishment for rape there'd be a lot less of it. We men love our dicks as we can only love ourselves. __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

07-10-2013, 04:54 PM	#97 (permalink)
TheBig3 killedmyraindog Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 11,172	If you force yourself on someone sexually, its rape, and its your fault. __________________ I've moved to a new address

07-09-2013, 05:36 PM	#94 (permalink)
~~Cuthbert~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Black Country Posts: 8,827	That's what I think and all. The guy's a bell-end, he has actually been arrested again for assault since being arrested for rape. I can't find anything about the case other than the fact he's been arrested and charged, though.

07-10-2013, 04:54 AM	#95 (permalink)
~~butthead aka 216~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: freely swimmin thru the waters of glory much like a majestic bald eagle soars thru the skies Posts: 1,463	false reports should be minimum 5 yr sentences

07-10-2013, 05:11 PM	#98 (permalink)
~~John Wilkes Booth~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 2,235	I blame Obama.