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Bowie has done Acoustic , rock , soul , electronica , new wave , pop & techno.
Hell the 2nd half of the Low album is Post Rock before Post Rock even existed.

I don`t see how Prince is more experimental

you all don't laugth at this

michael jackson is a good musicain(not that i care for him or his music)....

Urban I would like to point something out.





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U2 is from Britian :D

Ireland

Northern Ireland is Great Britian, is it not?

Yes , But they`re from Dublin in the Republic of Ireland

You're about to get bombed...

edit: bill

Why's that?

Northern Ireland...is great britian. Whether or not U2 was from Northern Ireland was not the question.

They`re not from Northern Ireland

Alright, thats fine.
I never insinuated that they were.

Well i`m confused

Iv'e been meaning to comment on this... It never comes down to country. It comes down to the individual. Whether US or UK has better muscians overall is purely coincidental. There is nothing in either culture that necessarily makes one country more apt to create better music although I do think US is more culturally diverse which allows for broader but not necessarily better ranges of music. Also the music you say UK stole fromt he US is music that the US stole from its liberated slaves. Everyone takes something they've already heard and tries to make it better or different. I also don't think UK makes better music right now and that they're desperately looking, whether to their own past bands or ours, for what comes next. Honestly and no offense but I don't think that they have the answer to that question right now.

Nirvana.

Both Britain and America are going through a bad time with their music now. I wouldn't say the US is any better than the UK at the moment.

This is the bit where a load of Americans tell you that you are wrong & start naming loads of Talking Heads/Mogwai clones ;)

Dunno, i think there are many good american bands today arent in the aforementioned mold.

Some people in this argument keep saying that the US are better musically now, but I don't see it.

I agree, just saying they're not one step ahead of anything right now like you said.

Wow, i sure wish you guys were here when everybody was trying to f*cking kill me.

Don`t blame me coz you`re a turncoat ;)

:(

Yes, im a traitor, f*ck you patriots, im with the redcoats.

http://threerivershms.com/redcoats.GIF

I'm sick and tired of you putting down the US' music scene every chance you get, when along with some amazing plain old rock bands, we've got GREAT experimental bands Animal Collective, Black Dice, Black Eyes, The Books, Can't, Deerhoof, Delia & Gavin, The Fiery Furnaces, From Monument To Masses, Hella, Hypatia Lake, Japanther, Lightning Bolt, Magic People, The Mae Shi, Microphones/Mt. Eerie, My Morning Jacket, Neptune, The Paper Chase, Rapider Than Horsepower, Red Sparowes, Sunburned Hand of the Man, Telefon Tel Aviv, Thunderbirds Are Now!, TV On the Radio, USAISAMONSTER, Xiu Xiu, and a shitload more.

We have a burgeoning Noise scene, a strong Post-Rock scene,(and don't even try and give me that "It all sounds the same" bull. Since when do Do Make Say Think and Pelican sound anything like one another?), and experimenting in virtually all genres. Meanwhile, what's the UK doing other than putting out a bunch of 10-years-too-late Britpop bands, a bunch of Libertines knockoffs, and leftover 90s bands? There's nothing new going on in the UK right now, most of its new music is pure crap.

So please, do those of us on this side of the Atlantic a favor and don't try and bring us down to Britain's level.

The 2 best post rock bands arent even from the US.

I`ve heard at least 8 or 9 bands on that list & quite honestly none of them do anything for me.I would say there are about 2 others I like but would hardly call them a favourite.To be honest of the stuff I have heard nothing really stood out.Nothing grabbed me by the balls & demanded I listen to it.And I said myself the UK scene has been in the crapper for about the last 5 years.

I don't even understand why you're so hung up on focusing on such a small scale like that. That doesn't change the fact that the US has a great Post-Rock scene as a whole.

Which would that be?

I think Explosions in the Sky is one of my favorites, but the other ones I like (Bark Psychosis, Flying Saucer Attack) are from the UK.

Sigur Ros (Iceland) and Godspeed You! Black Emperor (Canada).

I really like Explosions In The Sky though.

Sigur Ros are nowhere near the best Post-Rock band.

Fair enough. I just don't see why you're always complaining about the US scene being stale when there are a ton of bands still out there doing exciting things (whether you like them or not, you can't deny that they're not experimenting at the very least).

Wow, you sure convinced me.

America produces some great music. Britain produces some great music. But atm, for some reason, it seems to be cool to knock stateside stuff. Go figure...
Pete

Wow, Mr. "Beatles are the best band ever, anyone who doesn't think that just STFU and agree with me" wants an explanation? Fine.

I enjoyed Sigur Ros a lot when I first started listening to Post-Rock, but now that I've listened to a lot more of the genre they're really nothing special.

I don`t mind experimentation but I prefer versatility and thats my main sticking point with whats coming out of the U.S.
I`d rather listen to bands who mix stuff up rather than take one or two things & experiment with them.
Just taking one band you mentioned thats recent in my mind , you mentioned Xiu Xiu. I got their last album a couple of months ago , and to be honest most of the songs sounded indentical to me.I like highs & lows & textures in my albums and what I heard just sounded flat.

I have heard a good deal of Post Rock bands, i still think they stand out the most.

And i never said The Beatles were the best, i said they were the greatest.

Wow, a few pages back didn't you say different?

http://musicbanter.com/showpost.php?...&postcount=300

Weird, I probaly would have let that slide if the post was a few months old, but opinions like that typically don't change in a day. Also could you please reason as too why they're going through bad times? For reasons already listed a few times (throughout the thread), I think america is doing great now.

Your semantics are sickening, this thread has become one giant irrespoinsibility manifesto.

What have i ever done to you?... I try to be nice to you all the time, you always have to be jerk.

Im sorry for having different views on what makes a band great, and whatever you think my views are, you are probably misguided.

In fact i havent really gotten over your smartass "go listen to some scale runs" comment, that really pissed me off.

Why is it pissing you off? Did it hit close to home?

And for god's sake man, no ones being mean, you were out of control with shifting reasoning and double standards. Think Britain is better all you want, but changing what the qualifications are to better suit your argument and then getting arrogant with your replies was obnoxious.

The "Come on, names one band better than Radiohead/Beatles" replys were closed-minded retorts to a valid opinion. You can tell in the tone of the writing that you weren't going to hear of any band being better.

And I don't know what it is with you always assuming that I have an issue with you. I don't hate you because you don't like Sting or American bands, its a debate, things get ugly in here, but I don't carry them out of the thread.

Im honestly a little slighted that I have to explain this, further questions can be PMed or AIMed to me. And if anyone wants to complain about my conduct in this thread start one in the "Suggestions" forum just so we stay on topic here.

Yeah im all about the chops, the solos and the time signatures baby, nothing else.

http://www.last.fm/user/kingboobs/

Black Flag man, thats some really complex, technical sh*t.

^ Unnecessary.
I've been following this thread from the beginning and found myself agreeing with most of the opinions posted, but then I would seeing as the whole thread, by default, can never be anything more than subjective.

Whether you are American or British, it can't be denied that both nations have produced some brilliant and ground breaking bands over the last 50 years and have so in a consistent and prolific manner.
I know this seems like an obvious statement, but it's obvious that some here have missed this simple point.

I for one would be gutted if some of the American bands had never happened. The influence American bands have had on British music goes without question. The influence some British bands have had on which direction popular music has taken over the years, can never be underestimated.

I believe music in general would be nothing near as good as it is now, if these two countries didn't bounce of each other in the way they have over the years.

American artistry and British imagination.
IMO.