Brits Vs Yanks

SATCHMO · 05-10-2009, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

That's true but think Comus is right, it has to do with how recording changed in the 1950s. It's really the first decade where you can talk about specific albums by an artist. Prior to that music wasn't really released in the same way.

I'm no stranger to this, but regardless I believe it has as much if not more to do with the advent of rock and roll and television as it does w/ multi-tracking and the emergence of the LP as a popular music medium.

**Janszoon** · 05-10-2009, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Comus

I might just not have been exposed to enough later jazz, but I've always preferred the 50's stuff of the artists mentioned. At the end of the day it's such an expansive genre and the artists in question are so prolific that it can be hard to define a better era, from what I've heard, the 50's win it hands down, but maybe I haven't heard the right 60's stuff. Either way all this talking about jazz has really got me in the mood. I'm guessing the next few albums (after the one I'm doing atm) in my 1001 list are going to be jazzy :p

Haha. Likewise your comments have put me in the mood to listen to Hawkwind.

**Janszoon** · 05-10-2009, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SATCHMO

I'm no stranger to this, but regardless I believe it has as much if not more to do with the advent of rock and roll and television as it does w/ multi-tracking and the emergence of the LP as a popular music medium.

Yeah, I guess you're probably right that those things are a big factor too.

The Pink Panther · 05-10-2009, 04:03 PM

In my view both are just as good as each other it depends on what type of music you listen to.
If you are into Indie music Britain wins hands down, however America does produce much better music of the heavier variety.
I will agree with what has been said previously on this thread that In a lot of instances American bands do seem to have better singers.

As for lyrical content it's a cultural thing.As for lyrics course the lyrics of bands such as Oasis, Libertines & Arctic Monkeys are going to mean a lot more to British audiences than they will to American ones. Don't forget that USA also has some great lyricists such as Kurt Cobain, Henry Rollins/Greg Ginn to name a few.
Both countries have produced and still produced great music.

One thing I will say about America is that I have noticed over the years if a particular style of music becomes popular eg Grunge and Nu-Metal, it seems as if the American record industry pulls out watered down radio friendly versions of this music to try and make a quick buck.

Comus · 05-10-2009, 04:07 PM

Imho when it comes to heavy you can't beat Scandinavia and Western Europe, rich white kids with nothing better to do, do metal better than anyone.

EDIT: Well Eastern Europe has it's share of br00tal too I suppose.

Norg · 05-10-2009, 09:42 PM

the yanks but iam bias but who can top this list on American HW

alice in chains

the beach boys

Mike patton

Phillp anselmo

two me since america is a bigger country and has twice has many people it produces twice has many artist IMO

Comus · 05-11-2009, 04:16 AM

I think my head just exploded at your reasoning.

Zarko · 05-11-2009, 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Comus

Imho when it comes to heavy you can't beat Scandinavia and Western Europe, rich white kids with nothing better to do, do metal better than anyone.

EDIT: Well Eastern Europe has it's share of br00tal too I suppose.

Nowadays they're doing all the best jazz as well :p

~~The Unfan~~ · 05-11-2009, 04:38 AM

Yanks.

boo boo · 05-11-2009, 05:49 AM

I may have done this before, but maybe my opinions have changed since then.

50s: Yanks. easly.

60s: Tie. Brits had the invasion. We had Miles, Hendrix, Dylan, Zappa, The Beach Boys, The Doors, The Byrds, The Dead, CCR, Jefferson Airplane, Motown. I was going to give this to the brits but... We both had our fair share.

70s: Brits. By a landslide. They gave us prog and metal, while they didn't invent punk, they perfected it. We had a lot of funk and soul, but that's mostly it.

80s: Tie. A lot of people are quick to hand this over to the brits, but ehhhh. We had a bit going for us this decade, ass metal notwithstanding, we had Talking Heads, REM, Michael Jackson, Sonic Youth, Pixies, Dinosaur Jr, Van Halen, GnR, Grandmaster Flash, Public Enemy, Run DMC, Beastie Boys, Metalica, The Replacements, the early hardcore scene. I say the amount of quality music from both sides were about 50/50.

90s: Yanks. I know a lot of brits will disagree over this one. Yeah you had Radiohead. But me, I was never big on most of the britpop bands, Blur aside. Sure you also had Primal Scream, Stone Roses and a lot of great electronica and trip hop, and some bitchin' prog too. But IMO we had a lot to offer last decade. Nirvana, Flaming Lips, Smashing Pumpkins, Beck, Jeff Buckley, Pearl Jam, Sonic Youth, DJ Shadow, Phish, Yo La Tengo, Rage, RHCP and a lot of hip hop. I'm clearly going by preference on this one.

00s: Yanks. I think everyone can agree with this one. Maybe you brits have some really awesome music right now, who knows? But it sure as f*ck ain't coming over here. Radiohead, Porcupine Tree, Muse. That's pretty much it as far as I'm concerned.

It may seem like I'm being overly generous to us yanks, and maybe I am. But it should be more than obvious to anyone who knows me that the 70s is my favorite decade, and my top 5 bands are all brits.

05-10-2009, 04:03 PM	#694 (permalink)
The Pink Panther Groupie Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Wrexham,North Wales,UK Posts: 10	In my view both are just as good as each other it depends on what type of music you listen to. If you are into Indie music Britain wins hands down, however America does produce much better music of the heavier variety. I will agree with what has been said previously on this thread that In a lot of instances American bands do seem to have better singers. As for lyrical content it's a cultural thing.As for lyrics course the lyrics of bands such as Oasis, Libertines & Arctic Monkeys are going to mean a lot more to British audiences than they will to American ones. Don't forget that USA also has some great lyricists such as Kurt Cobain, Henry Rollins/Greg Ginn to name a few. Both countries have produced and still produced great music. One thing I will say about America is that I have noticed over the years if a particular style of music becomes popular eg Grunge and Nu-Metal, it seems as if the American record industry pulls out watered down radio friendly versions of this music to try and make a quick buck.

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Norg Music Addict Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,344	the yanks but iam bias but who can top this list on American HW alice in chains the beach boys Mike patton Phillp anselmo two me since america is a bigger country and has twice has many people it produces twice has many artist IMO

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