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Old 07-24-2010, 05:35 PM   #1581 (permalink)
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I used to think Tarantino could do no wrong but then I watched Natural Born Killers. Stone veered very far from what Tarantino intended though so I'll let that one slide.
Stone really does seem sh*t, I've not seen all of his work but from what I've seen he seems terrible. I remember Tarantino getting p*ssed off at someone for rewriting his work, he says if you want me to write, fine. But don't f*ck with my work, I can't remember if he was talking about Stone or not..
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Old 07-24-2010, 05:40 PM   #1582 (permalink)
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I thought Platoon, Wall Street and Born On the Fourth of July were very good. JFK was pretty good too as long as you realise it's just revisionist entertainment and not a history lession. I think Stone started out good but JFK should have been his last film.

I think as a director he's talented, but he's always had a taste for over the top sensationalism. He made great films in the 80s. But once the 90s came around it seemed like he would attach his name to any controversial subject he could get his hands on, just because he can.
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Yeah, I think that's a lot of people's problem with him. If you're going to do a film based on past events, then use facts. Not like what he did in The Doors.

Unless of course you want to make a really obvious film like Inglourious Basterds, that's quite clearly not based on real history.

Stone didn't do it like Tarantino, Stone changes things and they aren't massive things a lot of the time. Just little things and you think no, what? That isn't right...

Though I do need to see more of his films before I judge him.
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Old 07-24-2010, 06:15 PM   #1584 (permalink)
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Yeah, I think that's a lot of people's problem with him. If you're going to do a film based on past events, then use facts. Not like what he did in The Doors.

Unless of course you want to make a really obvious film like Inglourious Basterds, that's quite clearly not based on real history.

Stone didn't do it like Tarantino, Stone changes things and they aren't massive things a lot of the time. Just little things and you think no, what? That isn't right...

Though I do need to see more of his films before I judge him.
Well his 3 best films are influenced by aspects of his own life, he was a war vestern so that gives Platoon and Born a special poignancy his other films lack, and Wall Street was a pretty relevant film when it came out and has newfound relevance today. Yeah it's a pretty partial movie so don't watch it if you think it's unfair to rich upper class white people.
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Old 07-27-2010, 01:46 AM   #1585 (permalink)
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Seriously, boo boo, either update this thing more often or let somebody co-manage it...
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Courtesy of CunningStunt.

The Rubber Factory by The Black Keys



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Rubber Factory 0
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Have not heard RF so I have to refrain from voting.
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I'll go with White Blood Cells, not a fan of either, but I have a soft spot for The White Stripes because I like a few songs of theirs. The Black Keyes I'm just kind of neutral on.
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YOU HAVEN'T HEARD Rubber Factory?!?! WTF!?!?



Tehe, whatevers, man. I think it rocks, but maybe it's not your thing.

As for the two albums, I prefer The White Stripes as a whole but Rubber Factory is so good that it challenges anything The Stripes have ever released, IMO. If this were De Stijl this would be a lot more difficult.

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My favorite from Rubber Factory:

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Really tough, but TWS are teh bomb.

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