Album Wars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

**Janszoon** · 07-27-2011, 06:18 PM

All three albums are good, but this goes to Tribe easily. The De La Soul album has too much filler to win and the Public Enemy album hasn't aged all that well.

De La Soul 0
A Tribe Called Quest 2
Public Enemy 2

Electrophonic Tonic · 07-27-2011, 10:23 PM

I personally think this battle would have been more interesting with the Cactus Album replacing It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back. But back to the original point...

It's a close fight between Three Feet High and Rising and It Takes a Nation. For me, It Takes a Nation separates itself with the opening track, 'Countdown to Armageddon'. It sets the stage for that album better than any other opening track in music, in my opinion. Three Feet High has some incredible moments of beauty. But the sonic assault AND attention to detail by Public Enemy and the Bomb Squad makes me give the vote to PE.

De La Soul 0
A Tribe Called Quest 2
Public Enemy 3

TockTockTock · 07-28-2011, 06:22 PM

I honestly cannot choose between the Public Enemy album and the Tribe Called Quest album... They are both fantastic.

jackhammer · 07-28-2011, 07:10 PM

The De La Soul album has the better individual tracks but it just doesn't work as an album and lacks cohesion.

I love Public Enemy but against my better judgment I do think that the compilation Power To The People And Beats is the best thing to own for Public Enemy (despite Burn Hollywood, Burn not being on there).

ATCQ sound as dated as the other albums TBH but it is much more cohesive and holds up much better. Besides the live rhythm section is stellar.

De La Soul 0
A Tribe Called Quest 3
Public Enemy 3

Unknown Soldier · 07-29-2011, 02:28 AM

Somebody who hasn`t voted yet, break this deadlock today!

TockTockTock · 07-29-2011, 12:26 PM

Eh, fine... I'll vote for the Public Enemy album.

De La Soul 0
A Tribe Called Quest 3
Public Enemy 4

Unknown Soldier · 07-29-2011, 01:24 PM

So Public Enemy takes it with 4 votes. Next up courtesy of Jack Pat who still hasn`t realized its no longer 1967!!! Two experimental rock albums from the late 60s. I imagine not too many people will know these albums, but if some of you can give them a listen, then maybe we can get more than a couple of votes.

The Godz Godz 2 1967

Red Krayola Parable of Arable Land 1967

Unknown Soldier · 07-29-2011, 01:25 PM

BTW Jack I`ve started a Country Joe and the Fish thread which may interest you.

TockTockTock · 07-29-2011, 06:59 PM

Oh... forgot about this... sorry.

Well, both albums are really close in terms of innovation/enjoyment, but I have to go with the Red Krayola album. What they were doing was immensely important to rock music. Their Free Form Freakouts were apart of the beginnings of industrial music, while some of their other, more psychedelic, songs, such as "War Sucks" and "Hurricane Fighter Plane," helped pave the way to the creation of punk rock and post-punk. The title track is pretty damn interesting too, with it being an avant-rock/free guitar improvisational piece. I'll admit, though, that I prefer their second album over this one, but Parable of Arable Land is still an amazing record and one hell of a brainfuck.

The Godz album is also important... it had a profound amount of influence over the creation of freak folk and avant-folk (although, more so with their first album). You can also see the influence they might have had on Neu! (with the song "Permanent Green Light") and possibly on Jandek (with "Crusade"). Some of the tracks are just hilarious, though... such as with "You Won't See Me" which is a 60s pop-like track where they "mess up" towards the beginning, and with "New Song" where they make some strange country song with weird vocals and a fucked up violin. It almost seems as if the album itself is more concerned with making a statement than with the actual musicianship (which could also be said about the Red Krayola release). Also... you have to admit that "Radar Eyes" is such a fun song to listen to.

Red Krayola: 1
Godz: 0

~~Bob the Bastard~~ · 07-30-2011, 07:03 AM

I would listen to them, never heard of either but i would listen if i could find them somewhere. Nothing on spotify or we7, any ideas?

07-27-2011, 06:18 PM	#2411 (permalink)
Janszoon Mate, Spawn & Die Join Date: May 2007 Location: The Rapping Community Posts: 24,593	All three albums are good, but this goes to Tribe easily. The De La Soul album has too much filler to win and the Public Enemy album hasn't aged all that well. De La Soul 0 A Tribe Called Quest 2 Public Enemy 2 __________________ A Night in the Life of the Invisible Man Time & Place 25 Albums You Should Hear Before the Moon Crashes into the Earth and We All Die last.fm

07-28-2011, 07:10 PM	#2414 (permalink)
jackhammer Ba and Be. Join Date: May 2007 Location: This Is England Posts: 17,331	The De La Soul album has the better individual tracks but it just doesn't work as an album and lacks cohesion. I love Public Enemy but against my better judgment I do think that the compilation Power To The People And Beats is the best thing to own for Public Enemy (despite Burn Hollywood, Burn not being on there). ATCQ sound as dated as the other albums TBH but it is much more cohesive and holds up much better. Besides the live rhythm section is stellar. De La Soul 0 A Tribe Called Quest 3 Public Enemy 3 __________________ It be my music and film collection. “A cynic by experience, a romantic by inclination and now a hero by necessity.”

07-29-2011, 06:59 PM	#2419 (permalink)
TockTockTock They/Them Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,914	Oh... forgot about this... sorry. Well, both albums are really close in terms of innovation/enjoyment, but I have to go with the Red Krayola album. What they were doing was immensely important to rock music. Their Free Form Freakouts were apart of the beginnings of industrial music, while some of their other, more psychedelic, songs, such as "War Sucks" and "Hurricane Fighter Plane," helped pave the way to the creation of punk rock and post-punk. The title track is pretty damn interesting too, with it being an avant-rock/free guitar improvisational piece. I'll admit, though, that I prefer their second album over this one, but Parable of Arable Land is still an amazing record and one hell of a brainfuck. The Godz album is also important... it had a profound amount of influence over the creation of freak folk and avant-folk (although, more so with their first album). You can also see the influence they might have had on Neu! (with the song "Permanent Green Light") and possibly on Jandek (with "Crusade"). Some of the tracks are just hilarious, though... such as with "You Won't See Me" which is a 60s pop-like track where they "mess up" towards the beginning, and with "New Song" where they make some strange country song with weird vocals and a fucked up violin. It almost seems as if the album itself is more concerned with making a statement than with the actual musicianship (which could also be said about the Red Krayola release). Also... you have to admit that "Radar Eyes" is such a fun song to listen to. Red Krayola: 1 Godz: 0 Last edited by TockTockTock; 07-29-2011 at 08:17 PM.

07-27-2011, 10:23 PM	#2412 (permalink)
Electrophonic Tonic Your Ad Here Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: The Twilight Zone Posts: 876	I personally think this battle would have been more interesting with the Cactus Album replacing It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back. But back to the original point... It's a close fight between Three Feet High and Rising and It Takes a Nation. For me, It Takes a Nation separates itself with the opening track, 'Countdown to Armageddon'. It sets the stage for that album better than any other opening track in music, in my opinion. Three Feet High has some incredible moments of beauty. But the sonic assault AND attention to detail by Public Enemy and the Bomb Squad makes me give the vote to PE. De La Soul 0 A Tribe Called Quest 2 Public Enemy 3

07-28-2011, 06:22 PM	#2413 (permalink)
TockTockTock They/Them Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,914	I honestly cannot choose between the Public Enemy album and the Tribe Called Quest album... They are both fantastic.

07-29-2011, 02:28 AM	#2415 (permalink)
Unknown Soldier Horribly Creative Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: London, The Big Smoke Posts: 8,265	Somebody who hasn`t voted yet, break this deadlock today!

07-29-2011, 12:26 PM	#2416 (permalink)
TockTockTock They/Them Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,914	Eh, fine... I'll vote for the Public Enemy album. De La Soul 0 A Tribe Called Quest 3 Public Enemy 4

07-29-2011, 01:24 PM	#2417 (permalink)
Unknown Soldier Horribly Creative Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: London, The Big Smoke Posts: 8,265	So Public Enemy takes it with 4 votes. Next up courtesy of Jack Pat who still hasn`t realized its no longer 1967!!! Two experimental rock albums from the late 60s. I imagine not too many people will know these albums, but if some of you can give them a listen, then maybe we can get more than a couple of votes. The Godz Godz 2 1967 Red Krayola Parable of Arable Land 1967

07-29-2011, 01:25 PM	#2418 (permalink)
Unknown Soldier Horribly Creative Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: London, The Big Smoke Posts: 8,265	BTW Jack I`ve started a Country Joe and the Fish thread which may interest you.

07-30-2011, 07:03 AM	#2420 (permalink)
~~Bob the Bastard~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Wherever I want to live Posts: 4	I would listen to them, never heard of either but i would listen if i could find them somewhere. Nothing on spotify or we7, any ideas?