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Old 05-13-2016, 04:45 PM   #11211 (permalink)
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I hate to invoke Godwin's Law over boring singers, but just imagine if Hitler had used his vast oratory powers for good. Just imagine if he hadn't used them for anti-Semitism. Now just imagine if Mariah Carey had used her singing powers for good music.

Mariah Carey is Hitler.
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Old 05-13-2016, 04:49 PM   #11212 (permalink)
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Mariah Carey is Hitler's OG.
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Old 05-13-2016, 05:16 PM   #11213 (permalink)
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If you don't sing good songs you're not a good singer. If you don't play good songs on the guitar you're not a good guitarist.

Mariah Carey is not a good singer because her songs are bad. There's no other worthwhile criteria. Same goes for Yngie Malmsteen and Stevie Ray Vaughn. They are bad guitarists because their music is bad. If you can juggle chainsaws you don't need much of an asthetic but with music it's almost everything. You cannot be a good musician if you play bad music.
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Old 05-13-2016, 05:33 PM   #11214 (permalink)
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Whoa whoa whoa, I like SRV.
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Old 05-13-2016, 05:41 PM   #11215 (permalink)
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@occult ^so if you're a good singer that sings bad songs, that makes you a bad singer? I don't think that's how it works.
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Old 05-13-2016, 05:42 PM   #11216 (permalink)
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The hell? Even a good vocalist can have a bad song. A song would be bad because the singer or guitarist is bad, not the other way around. I've heard great musicians put out bad songs. Ever heard of Lulu?
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Old 05-13-2016, 05:43 PM   #11217 (permalink)
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If you don't sing good songs you're not a good singer. If you don't play good songs on the guitar you're not a good guitarist.

Mariah Carey is not a good singer because her songs are bad. There's no other worthwhile criteria. Same goes for Yngie Malmsteen and Stevie Ray Vaughn. They are bad guitarists because their music is bad.
Was Michael Jordan a bad basketball player because you don't like the Bulls?
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Old 05-13-2016, 05:43 PM   #11218 (permalink)
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But what if that singer only puts out ****ty songs? That's what we're discussing here.
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Old 05-13-2016, 05:53 PM   #11219 (permalink)
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I even admit Lady Gaga has a singing voice (when she sings), and I greatly dislike her music because everything else about it can be really bad. I think post-debut Axl's voice sucks, but UYI 2 is great. The thing is, the song ia the product of the artist, not the other way around.
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Old 05-13-2016, 05:54 PM   #11220 (permalink)
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But what if that singer only puts out ****ty songs? That's what we're discussing here.
Then they suck at writing music. Nothing to do with their vocal talent.
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