I definitly said most metal. And if Extreme music had better production you'd probably think different. Go listen to Cynic - Focus. Go listen to Necrophagist - Epitaph.

And it was simply a question. If you look at what they're playing, Atheist are one of the most musically talented bands ever. Roger Patterson = a bass god. If you don't play music or if you've only heard a song or two, you might not realize that you are incredibly wrong.

Never said they weren't talented, I strongly believe it's possible for a band to be very talented and still make bad music, as opposed to most people here who believe that if you make bad music, you cannot have talent, I see this as being dumb, because talent can be objectified, music quality cannot.

I view musical quality with complete subjectivity (not that anyone can judge music quality objectively, but most people claim to), and god forbid I shouldn't have to repeat the phrase "in my opinion" all the damn time, though it may be necessary to do so, in order for there to be no confusion over weither or not I'm trying to pass these things off as actual fact, which is common among a lot of people.

Then there we differ. If you don't listen to Extreme Metal, don't make judgements on it. You don't know what makes a good song for that style. You can not like a band all you want but when you spout trash like
I'm going to call you out on it.

Radiohead is overrated. As are the Arctic Monkeys. I get kicked for saying the latter.

I agree with the Modest Mouse, though they do alright instrumentally but I think their vocalist is terrible. He sounds extremely bad live.

Also The Rolling Stones suck.

It would be all too easy, it's got to be the most re-occuring topic in Musicbanter history, well, next to a debate involving Nirvana.;)

As for me, Indie pop bores the shit out of me. Sounds like Coldplay running through a field of daisy's. And you know, I'm all for creativity but not when they dress it up in pink and make it sound like they were holding hands with Elton John at the time of thought.

Yorke wannabes are the scum of the earth.

I hate barks, any vocalist that barks really pisses me off. Disturbed are guilty, Metallica is guilty. Yuck.

Guitars that sound like they belong in an arcade game like Streetfighter are the pinnacle of bad sounds.

There are only about 6 songs in total that I like from In Utero, Incesticide and Nevermind combined.

I find Grunge is generally awful. I could round up probably 20 decent grunge songs and the rest is just dry oatmeal.

I love doom but I don't particularly like drone.

The Mars Volta are awesome but I don't like listening to them.

That accent (usually found in some form of punk) that sounds like a 16 year old american boy whose testicles are on the verge of dropping. Thats not entirely specific, but it's just anything from the vocals of Greenday to Simple Plan to AFI. Those vocals that scream "Yes, I am the last person on earth".

Dave Grohl is a fucking loser.

Nelly Furtado pop is 10 times better than Nickelback rock. And I hate Nelly Furtado pop.

Since metal and indie lose out in this post, I thought I'd even things up and say Rush and Yes are incredibly boring. I like prog, but theres just some stuff where I draw the line. Technically they're good mumble,mumble,mumble but god they just don't do anything remotely entertaining.

anything you say to DavidFrost :laughing:

'Real' Emo is truly awful. I'm sure that all of the bands which were listed in the Emo education thread were important to the recent history of music, but its beyond me why anybody wanted to follow them. Pop featuring skinny guys with dyed black side parting is much more listenable.

Shakira, Kelly Clarkson, The Sugarbabes, Christina Aguilera and Beyonce are all better than any Death Metal band.

I much prefer seeing Usher do some dance move to watching some fat old punk singer sweat and look angry or perhaps constipated on stage.

U2 and Coldplay may be pretty mediocre, but the Rolling Stones are even more so.

Apart from the Beatles, most music before funk sounded pretty lame in comparison to what has come since and is certainly over-rated (even Elvis and Led Zepellin).

"****" should be an official genre for music which overrides all other factors. Bands like Nickleback, Creed, JJ72, Cast, etc. should automatically be categorised as such, to stop them from polluting other sections. Obviously, **** boy/girl band music won't be included because that would take up too much room in the **** section.

Basically, a Bobcat Goldwait robot that sings in the same exact note every song, off time.

Perfect decription actually

except that Bobcat kicks way more ass.