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OctaneHugo 05-05-2010 08:31 PM

No but seriously they're pretty awful.

Antonio 05-05-2010 09:56 PM

Slipknot is one of the better bands from the nu-metal era, and quite honestly nu-metal wasn't that bad.

IWP 05-05-2010 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Engine (Post 863155)
Wow. OK I guess I have an Unpopular Music Opinion that I didn't realize:

I f*cking hate the sound of Slipknot

You and me both bro.

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Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 863268)
Slipknot is one of the better bands from the nu-metal era, and quite honestly nu-metal wasn't that bad.

Eh, at least it's more tolerable than the current wave of deathcore/hardcore.

Antonio 05-05-2010 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by IWP (Post 863269)
Eh, at least it's more tolerable than the current wave of deathcore/hardcore.

tbh, some people may find it ironic (or for some, deserved) that alot of these deathcore bands list groups like Korn and Limp Bizkit as main influences, hehe.

OctaneHugo 05-06-2010 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 863268)
nu-metal wasn't that bad.

But it is :(

Charlemagne 05-06-2010 04:48 PM

I don't get what the big deal about LCD Soundsystem is.

sidewinder 05-06-2010 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Charlemagne (Post 863569)
I don't get what the big deal about LCD Soundsystem is.

I share your unpopular opinion. I think most people that like them aren't that experienced with electronic music. Otherwise they'd recognize that their sound is nothing special. At least that's the impression I got when I listened to one of their albums...I'd heard it all before, it just sounded more polished and packaged for the masses. More pop. People like pop, so there you go. I guess that's the big deal...it's easily accessible.

Janszoon 05-06-2010 05:18 PM

I'm with both of you on the LCD Soundsystem front. Not a horrible band IMO but at the same time I really don't get what the big deal is either.

Antonio 05-06-2010 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by OctaneHugo (Post 863561)
But it is :(

well can you enlighten me as to why? i understand that a good number of groups ripped off of each other, but really what musical genre hasn't?

dca 05-06-2010 07:21 PM

- sometimes I think the following bands might be better than The Beatles, album for album:

Van Halen
Steely Dan
AC/DC
Joni Mitchell
Iron Maiden
Pavement

debaserr 05-06-2010 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by dca (Post 863635)
- sometimes I think the following bands might be better than The Beatles, album for album:

Van Halen
Steely Dan
AC/DC
Joni Mitchell
Iron Maiden
Pavement

lmao:finger:

OctaneHugo 05-06-2010 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 863592)
well can you enlighten me as to why? i understand that a good number of groups ripped off of each other, but really what musical genre hasn't?

If anyone writes a genre off because many of its artists aren't original, they're dumb.

Nu metal is boring, skilless garbage. It all sounds exactly the same and the sound is terrible. It's annoying. It's repetitive in a bad way. I've never heard a nu metal song I like.

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Originally Posted by dca (Post 863635)
- sometimes I think the following bands might be better than The Beatles, album for album:

Van Halen
Steely Dan
AC/DC
Joni Mitchell
Iron Maiden
Pavement

Whenever someone says "Better than The Beatles", I take it as quality wise. There's no denying the impact The Beatles had on music, and whenever someone says "I don't like The Beatles", I'm fine with it, so long as that person knows what they did and respects them.

Now, I think Van Halen and AC/DC are fuc‎king terrible. I'd rather have a cow take a crap in my ears than listen to their music. I think they're insults to top-tier artists and should have never released an album.

Joni Mitchell and Pavement I've heard of but don't know a lot about.

Steely Dan, though, is my definite favorite band. S‎hit, I'm listening to them right now. Now, album-to-album, quality-wise? I'd say this is plausible. Steely Dan is probably the most consistent band in history and were always top notch, and I think that they could definitely run the table in a discussion about album quality.

Antonio 05-06-2010 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by OctaneHugo (Post 863652)
If anyone writes a genre off because many of its artists aren't original, they're dumb.

Nu metal is boring, skilless garbage. It all sounds exactly the same and the sound is terrible. It's annoying. It's repetitive in a bad way. I've never heard a nu metal song I like.

ok, i can why you don't like it, but on my side of the fence i enjoy the main groove of the songs combined with the hard hitting instrumentation. while you may see that as "boring" i see it as something i can really move to, in a way a kind of heavy funk music.

as for how it's "skilless", i say it's not so much what you have, but how you use it. there's plenty of musicians who have skill up to their eyeballs, but squander it in meaningless shred-fests and overblown displays of technicality. not saying that there aren't people with alot of skill who can really make music, just that i'm not too picky on skill levels as long as the musicians can take what they have and make it entertaining.

but yeah, not sayng you have to like nu-metal or anything. there's music that doesn't appeal to me, but i still can get why others like it*cough* classical *cough*

IWP 05-06-2010 09:27 PM

Yeah I'm not much of a classical fan either, even though I appreciate the talent it takes to make that kind of music.

BTown 05-06-2010 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by OctaneHugo (Post 863652)
If anyone writes a genre off because many of its artists aren't original, they're dumb.

Nu metal is boring, skilless garbage. It all sounds exactly the same and the sound is terrible. It's

I share your opinion of nu-metal but I hate the argument in any situation when people say that a ertain genre or even band takes no skill. Who cares if they're playing power chords or their whole songs consist of sweeping, it's about whatever sounds good.

Some extremely hard stuff can sound great



and some really simple stuff can sound just as good. (as it can sound bad just like any other style of music)


Engine 05-06-2010 09:45 PM

I love Classical music.
Damnit, another Unpopular Music Opinion?

RVCA 05-06-2010 10:57 PM

No, classical music is the ****. Beethoven, Mozart, Bach, Haydn, etc

sidewinder 05-07-2010 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by OctaneHugo (Post 863652)
If anyone writes a genre off because many of its artists aren't original, they're dumb.

Nu metal is boring, skilless garbage. It all sounds exactly the same and the sound is terrible. It's annoying. It's repetitive in a bad way. I've never heard a nu metal song I like.

Wait, so it's dumb to write off a genre because many of its artists aren't original, but it's ok to write one off as boring, skilless garbage? :crazy:

duga 05-07-2010 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by sidewinder (Post 863923)
Wait, so it's dumb to write off a genre because many of its artists aren't original, but it's ok to write one off as boring, skilless garbage? :crazy:

Don't worry, I didn't understand it the contradiction there, either.

OctaneHugo 05-07-2010 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 863682)
ok, i can why you don't like it, but on my side of the fence i enjoy the main groove of the songs combined with the hard hitting instrumentation. while you may see that as "boring" i see it as something i can really move to, in a way a kind of heavy funk music.

I'm all for grooves but every nu metal song I've heard either doesn't have any real groove or a terrible one. And then they have all that heavy bullshi‎t going on in the background and it just doesn't work at all.

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as for how it's "skilless", i say it's not so much what you have, but how you use it. there's plenty of musicians who have skill up to their eyeballs, but squander it in meaningless shred-fests and overblown displays of technicality. not saying that there aren't people with alot of skill who can really make music, just that i'm not too picky on skill levels as long as the musicians can take what they have and make it entertaining.
Yeah, but 95% of talentless musicians make terrible music with the other 5% maybe doing something interesting.

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but yeah, not sayng you have to like nu-metal or anything. there's music that doesn't appeal to me, but i still can get why others like it*cough* classical *cough*
Def. I rarely try to sway one's musical tastes covering entire genres.

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Originally Posted by sidewinder (Post 863923)
Wait, so it's dumb to write off a genre because many of its artists aren't original, but it's ok to write one off as boring, skilless garbage? :crazy:

Cause originality = awesome, right? So, like, Merzbow is the greatest isn't he? http://imgur.com/FFY5R.gif

folkrocker 05-07-2010 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 294575)
Extreme metal = DULL DULL DULL
Jeff Buckley , Elliot Smith & Bonnie Prince Billy have/will never put out anything as good as Nick Drake , Scott Walker or Nick Cave
Green Day were always commercial sounding & their old albums were just as crap as the stuff they`re putting out now
Nirvana fans who think they know about underground music because they once bought a Meat Puppets album.
The Meat Puppets were crap.
Other bands I think that are crap that some people hero worship on this forum .... Primus , The Melvins , Muse and anything with Mike Patton apart from Faith No More.

I could never stand Primus either. I tried really hard but I just couldn't pull it off.

clutnuckle 05-07-2010 04:09 PM

I like Primus per se, but I don't ever think I consider one of their albums a 'masterpiece'. They're just good, and some of them aren't even that. If they do get some sort of hero praise on here, it'd puzzle me.

debaserr 05-07-2010 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by clutnuckle (Post 864034)
I like Primus per se, but I don't ever think I consider one of their albums a 'masterpiece'. They're just good, and some of them aren't even that. If they do get some sort of hero praise on here, it'd puzzle me.

i would love a playlist of all the worthwhile Primus songs so I don't have to go through their discography. there are certainly some good ones.

sidewinder 05-07-2010 05:39 PM

'1979' by The Smashing Pumpkins is a pretty annoying and overrated song. And I say that as a fan of their first 4 albums.

duga 05-07-2010 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by sidewinder (Post 864061)
'1979' by The Smashing Pumpkins is a pretty annoying and overrated song. And I say that as a fan of their first 4 albums.

I can't fault you for your opinion...but this makes me sad. That song is awesome...as is 90% of Mellon Collie.

sidewinder 05-07-2010 06:10 PM

I never liked it much even before it was a single, even less after.

TheCunningStunt 05-07-2010 07:24 PM

I've got one - Whatever People I Say I Am, That's What I'm Not isn't Arctic Monkeys best album, Humbug is.

Engine 05-07-2010 07:57 PM

Ok here's a few:

Hendrix is as much of a guitar wanker as Yngwie Malmsteen. A guitar wanker is a guitar wanker whether they have bluesy soul or not. I particularly dislike electric Blues guitarists like Stevie Ray Vaughn and Robert Cray.

In the 80s Megadeth was a better band than Metallica. Dave Mustaine was a better musician than all of Metallica combined. After the 80s both bands sounded horrible.

Pink Floyd is as boring as any generic 70s rock band.

Rock and Roll itself is not very good. I don't like Elvis or any of the Sun Records stuff much. Early Beatles was forgettable. All of these white guys ripped off black R-n-B artists who made boring music in the first place.

In general, musicians were more skilled, more imaginative and more passionate 200 years ago than they are now.

Alternative country bands are neither alternative nor country. They make their money by blatantly ripping off their musical heroes in a way that they feel is clever and new but it is not.

Canadian indie rock bands that were popular in the 00s, in general, suck.

Same goes for Brooklyn.

sidewinder 05-07-2010 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Engine (Post 864117)
In general, musicians were more skilled, more imaginative and more passionate 200 years ago than they are now.

I find this quote that was in my head this morning appropriate:

"Nothing is a powerful place to stand. Only from nothing can you create."

So it follows that anything after the initial invention of music is influenced by what came before it, and therefore, less imaginative.

BTown 05-07-2010 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TheCunningStunt (Post 864107)
I've got one - Whatever People I Say I Am, That's What I'm Not isn't Arctic Monkeys best album, Humbug is.

Arctic Monkeys suck.
/unpopular music opinion

Sansa Stark 05-07-2010 09:44 PM

I don't like Tom Waits, David Bowie, Elvis Costello, or Bob Dylan

duga 05-07-2010 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Paloma (Post 864163)
I don't like Tom Waits, David Bowie, Elvis Costello, or Bob Dylan

Surely you like at least one David Bowie song....

TheCunningStunt 05-07-2010 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BTown787 (Post 864140)
Arctic Monkeys suck.
/unpopular music opinion

That's an opinion that's extremely unpopular with me.

sidewinder 05-07-2010 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Paloma (Post 864163)
I don't like Tom Waits, David Bowie, Elvis Costello, or Bob Dylan

Out of the bunch I only like David Bowie.

TheCunningStunt 05-08-2010 05:45 AM

I dislike Bowie as well. Listening to a full album of his bores me, I think I'm broke.
I just never could get in to Bowie, maybe one day.

OctaneHugo 05-08-2010 06:02 AM

Tom Waits is an unremarkable piano player and his voice isn't brilliant or groundbreaking, it's just grating as shi‎t. In a bad way.

Anteater 05-08-2010 08:42 AM

I think Toad the Wet Sprocket are actually pretty good....

....*watches credibility sink into quicksand*. :D

downwardspiral 05-08-2010 08:43 AM

^ I like one of their songs, it was on the I Know What You Did Last Summer soundtrack. I can't remember the name though, so I guess I didn't like it *that* much.

Hole are a brilliant band.

Antonio 05-08-2010 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Engine (Post 864117)
In the 80s Megadeth was a better band than Metallica. Dave Mustaine was a better musician than all of Metallica combined. After the 80s both bands sounded horrible.

this one i highly agree with.

the rest, eh, not so much.

scottsy 05-08-2010 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by downwardspiral (Post 864254)
^ I like one of their songs, it was on the I Know What You Did Last Summer soundtrack. I can't remember the name though, so I guess I didn't like it *that* much.

Hole are a brilliant band.

No, Hole are not brilliant, nor are they really a band so much as an outlet for courtney love's caterwauling. They're awful.


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