Neapolitan

I agree. I considered Metallica a horribly overbearing band of macho pasturing egomaniacs. A sad waste of time for the talented Kirk Hammett.

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Mondo Bungle

If you play in a successful band, then you're skilled, and I'm sorry to say but you must be a fucking moron to think otherwise. Maybe they might not be some innovative mastermind genius on whatever they play, but they can attract a crowd and sell records, and that takes skill if you ask me. Even all these mainstream/radio/pop/whatever acts that you'd call "soulless" or "uninspired" or that are marketed just to bring in money, they're still skilled, and you can't say they're not just because you don't like them. The Metallicas and Nickelbacks of the world all have band members that are skilled at their respective positions, and truth be told, there's a good chance they're all better than anyone and everyone here. What room do you have to talk? Let's see you sell out arenas worldwide, year after year.

I imagine that is an unpopular opinion.

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Exo

Besides most Jazz albums, I find more and more reasons not to listen to anything before the year 1980. I wouldn't say music sucked back then because that's insane, but my interest is almost completely gone.

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Ninetales

sorry bruh but nope

Wpnfire

I agree. Metallica is lucky he came up MY LIFESTYLE DETERMINES MY DEATH-STYLE. It's far better than whatever that lyrical hack Hetfield could come up with.

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Well I think it comes down to making the music that you want to make and making the music that you want to sell. It does take some skill to learn what people want and bring that to them, but honestly that's more of a talent within business than it is within music (in most cases, anyway). The artists that don't sell as much aren't any less skilled, since they market to a more niche audience, and have to undergo the same process of asking "what do they want to hear?" whether that's the teenyboppers filling the arenas or the bandmates themselves.

When I refer to skill, I'm talking about technical ability on an instrument or in songwriting.

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Neapolitan

So are you saying you don't like any pre-80s songs that are played in plug?

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Mondo Bungle

I totally feel it, but I've always believed that people in these bands still have a fair amount of skill, technically and musically speaking. They appeal to a very wide mainstream audience, who aren't gonna be excited to hear an artist that lacks any skill whatsoever. Wasn't putting down lesser known stuff, just saying that I believe all popular artists have musical skill. Chad Kroeger isn't really an ultra awesome guitarist, but he can still play, and write riffs, and perform said riffs, which takes great skill.

But you know, tons of under the radar guitarists have way more skill. I don't know what I'm trying to say.... I'm not that smart.

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Just the ones you play.

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OccultHawk

Metallica was so promising until ...And Justice for All. Then they became the dullards of the Big Four.