Ninetales

ftr metallica just isnt that good at all

Chula Vista

FTR, I completely disagree.

I'm gonna assume that you weren't there when they first blasted upon the scene.



This **** kicked all of us 70s rock fans out of our rocking chairs in a big way!

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grindy

If music has to rely on "being there", then it really isn't that good at all.

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Ninetales

youre right; I wasnt

The Batlord

I disagree. All that art has to do is make some kind of impact on the person. Just because it doesn't happen to be "timeless" is irrelevant if it accomplished it's intended purpose when it was made. Shakespeare is pretty much unreadable without college level courses (don't pretend like you knew what was going on with Hamlet in high school English). By your logic, Shakespeare isn't very good simply because it no longer has the same impact.

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grindy

Shakespeare was great then and he is great now.
The fact that language changed a lot, which makes reading him more difficult, doesn't take anything away from him being good.
Sure some music might have more impact (due to novelty or some social or political issues) in a particular era, but good music is good no matter when you listen to it.

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Chula Vista

Bat made a much more eloquent argument that I'm gonna....

BULLSH*T!!!!

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Wpnfire

Now I don't play guitar, but based on what I've heard James Hetfield playing the riff for "Blackened," whilst singing, two hours into a concert, during the middle of a 3-month tour, is not an easy task, and Hetfield has been doing this for his entire career and he still does. If all three former Yardbirds guitarists couldn't do what Johnny Ramone did, they certainly couldn't do it whilst singing at the same time as well.

Not liking the music is fine, but saying Metallica isn't very good (as in skilled) is a ridiculous statement.

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grindy

It was more an attack against your argument, than against Metallica's music.

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The Batlord

Shakespeare was written for an audience of illiterate (probably drunk) peasants. If today's layman, who is actually at least somewhat educated, can not even understand what the **** is being said without the aid of a classroom, then it does not have the same impact as it did hundreds of years ago. Which therefore means that Shakespeare no longer has the same relevance that he used to.

But yes, a change in language does not diminish his accomplishments... anymore than Metallica's accomplishments are diminished by changing musical language.

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