Unpopular Music Opinions

**Janszoon** · 07-18-2015, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by FaSho

First things first I love rza's production, and I think swords has some of his most haunting beats ever, and gza's flow matches up with them so perfectly that it always sucks me in. That combined with the often dark but always bleak lyrics about society and culture make it an album that I have to give my full attention every time I put it on. I can't browse the internet and listen to it because it's so hypnotic. I'm not sure how you feel about wu as a whole, but I would say it's not 'entry level'(another term I hate to use) for them. I don't agree but I can understand the argument that some people make that their music is boring at times, and gza is one of the less 'fun' members, but if you're a fan of the sound I don't see what would make it less appealing then say 36 chambers or supreme clientele.

That's interesting. Haunting, bleak, dark and hypnotic are not words I'd have associated with it. It's been a few years since I've heard it, but my recollection is of it being goofy in tone and flat in production style. Maybe I should give it another listen, though I also find 36 Chambers kind of dull so maybe not.

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Originally Posted by FaSho

not to mention I think the kill bill (or whatever movie it's originally from) sample is an awesome album opener.

I don't know what it's from, but the album was released many years before Kill Bill so it must be something else.

Machine · 07-18-2015, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Perfectly boring. I'd rather listen to ****ing Dream Theater.

Dream Theater is possibly my least favorite band, but Tool hit me in the right spot.

The Batlord · 07-18-2015, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Machine

Dream Theater is possibly my least favorite band, but Tool hit me in the right spot.

I could give a **** about Dream Theater, but they have their moments, whereas Tool just make almost no impression on me. I honestly can't think of a tool song that I find more than tolerable, whereas Dream Theater has this beast if nothing else...

Chula Vista · 07-18-2015, 08:44 PM

Tool's biggest problem is that they peaked with their first big hit. They never did anything better than Sober. Plus they had a habit of taking what would have been good 4 minutes songs and dragging them on forever.

Still a great band though.

**Janszoon** · 07-18-2015, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

I could give a **** about Dream Theater, but they have their moments, whereas Tool just make almost no impression on me. I honestly can't think of a tool song that I find more than tolerable, whereas Dream Theater has this beast if nothing else...

Every Tool song I've ever heard is better than that, and I'm not particularly a Tool fan.

FaSho · 07-18-2015, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

I also find 36 Chambers kind of dull so maybe not.

Yeah I'd say it's less exciting than 36 chambers for sure. I just love the ambiance of it more.

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

I don't know what it's from, but the album was released many years before Kill Bill so it must be something else.

wikipedia was my friend on this one:
"Several audio clips from Shogun Assassin are used on rapper GZA's classic album Liquid Swords (produced by RZA). In addition, the film is invoked in Kill Bill: Volume 2 (for which RZA provided original music) in the end scenes where the protagonist and her four-year-old daughter watch it as a bedtime story."

The Batlord · 07-18-2015, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Every Tool song I've ever heard is better than that, and I'm not particularly a Tool fan.

You don't like anything that smells of cheese. You're a snob, man.

**Janszoon** · 07-18-2015, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

You don't like anything that smells of cheese. You're a snob, man.

Not true at all. I enjoy much that smells of cheese.

Machine · 07-18-2015, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

I could give a **** about Dream Theater, but they have their moments, whereas Tool just make almost no impression on me. I honestly can't think of a tool song that I find more than tolerable, whereas Dream Theater has this beast if nothing else...

It's like the opposite for me. I just never was able to cling onto anything that DT did. Tool has songs like Parabola, Third Eye, Pu****, Lateralus, Rosetta Stoned, etc.

Key · 07-18-2015, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Tool's biggest problem is that they peaked with their first big hit. They never did anything better than Sober. Plus they had a habit of taking what would have been good 4 minutes songs and dragging them on forever.

Everything up to 10000 Days is nothing short of fantastic. They are pretty consistent at releasing albums that are deep and well thought out. Their long "dragged out" songs are some of their best imo. The combination of Wings for Marie and 10000 days on that album are two of their best songs ever.

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