Unpopular Music Opinions

Neapolitan · 08-18-2016, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Terrapin_Station

Now there's an example of a tune that's most definitely NOT mainstream in the US. In fact, I've never heard of it, or the artist, until you just posted it now.

OK this is bizarre cause I am younger than you, yet I know the song. I don't remember how, I just know of it.

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Originally Posted by Terrapin_Station

That's has nothing to do with whether they were mainstream or popular.

It's also not true that no one was doing music in the same vein as Zeppelin at the time, or that no one popular was doing music in the same vein as Zeppelin at the time, but whether anyone was doing music that was similar has nothing to do with whether they were popular.If you're referring to me, I didn't say anything like that at all. Zeppelin's career spanned the 70s. They were massively popular from the early 70s on. They weren't as popular when their first album came out, but who is? That doesn't mean they weren't popular, by the way, but they just weren't as massive until 1971/1972, when their fourth album was released (the fourth album was released in November of 1971). From that point on, they were huge.

The belief that Zeppelin weren't popular in the US in during the 70s is bizarre. But it's also a good gauge to see who is younger than someone who would have been a teen in the 1970s and/or to see who didn't live or spend much time in the US in the 70s.

OK I didn't say anywhere that Led Zeppelin "weren't popular in the US" (to whatever extent the numbers were of their fans). I believed in my own opinion that they fit the (at the time) the undergroundish subculture (not obscure nor not very popular). My initial statement was that no one was doing the type of smogs like the Immigrant Song at the charts at the time. I am aware that there were heavy Blues/Blues Rock bands like Stone the Crows, Savoy Brown and Taste around the same time. How mainstream there were, I don't really know.

Dylstew · 08-19-2016, 12:38 AM

Radio here in the Netherlands is awful, probably for the same reasons it is everywhere else, but there's less channels and like ****in' none exist that are permanent talk radio, If I want to hear random folks talking I need to switch constantly and it's usually like 2 channels who do it top. It kind of baffles me the radio is practicallly only used for music these days despite all the possibilties, yet they do a ****ty job of that one thing.

All they do is play current popular pop singles, and then play some old popular pop sigles, and they play the same songs waaaaay too much. They can't EVER play another song off the album an artist, nope, has to be that single made for the radio. And how DARE you put an"obscure"(And by that I mean has never been mainstream so it might be popular as ****) artist on the radio! All I want is some stations who actually play what the **** they like and don't give a **** about wether someting's a single or popular. I've heard that once on this metal/punk segement that's an hour a week on one of the radiostations. I heard some random Death Metal, and A Wilhelm Scream. That was it, the rest was normal single radio. Everynight I turn on the radio as background noise so I won't feel afraid alone, but man the songs get annoying very quickly, I should start using internet radio instead.

The Batlord · 08-19-2016, 03:13 AM

If you lived in America you'd be very tired of talk radio. There's only so many times you can listen to Rush Limbaugh before losing faith in humanity.

OccultHawk · 08-19-2016, 03:50 AM

If there's 20 stations of **** and 1 station of cool interesting music it's great. I don't give a **** that Christian right wing retards are on stations I don't listen to

Tristan_Geoff · 08-19-2016, 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

If you lived in America you'd be very tired of talk radio. There's only so many times you can listen to Rush Limbaugh before losing faith in humanity.

The number of times being once.

Terrapin_Station · 08-19-2016, 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Radio is still a great way to discover new music if you live near a university with a student run radio station. And there's still amazing radio shows being broadcast online. I often check playlists from college radio stations and then find it on Spotify.

Yeah, there are some good non-commercial stations still, and I still like some commercial non-music radio. I just can't take commercial music radio. The playlists are way too narrow for my tastes.

Terrapin_Station · 08-19-2016, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan

OK this is bizarre cause I am younger than you, yet I know the song. I don't remember how, I just know of it.

There have always been a lot of artists who were huge in the UK and almost unknown in the US, and vice versa--artists who were huge in the US and almost unknown in the UK.

Cliff Richard is a good example. In the US, he's thought of as a "two-hit wonder"--the two hits being "Devil Woman" and "We Don't Talk Anymore". Another good example is Robbie Williams. A lot of people in the US basically don't know him at all.

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I am aware that there were heavy Blues/Blues Rock bands like Stone the Crows, Savoy Brown and Taste around the same time. How mainstream there were, I don't really know.

Stone the Crows and Taste are extremely obscure in the US; almost no one would know them. Re Taste, many US guitarists (around my age or older) would know Rory Gallagher's name--he was mentioned in guitar magazines like Guitar Player relatively often for example, but a much smaller percentage would be at all familiar with any of his music (and same deal with Robin Trower by the way). Savoy Brown never had much more than a cult following in the US, though they did have a solid cult following. Foghat, however, which was basically an offshoot of Savoy Brown--was HUGE in the US for awhile in the 70s and into the early 80s. In that same vein, ZZ Top was also huge.

Jimi Hendrix, Deep Purple, Black Sabbath, Grand Funk, Bad Company, Allman Brothers Band, Ted Nugent, Aerosmith, Alice Cooper and many others in those veins were also huge in the US during the 70s (and beyond).

And for whatever reasons, a lot of people overlook Zeppelin's prog, folk/country and funk influences, which were all significant. In that vein, artists like Jethro Tull, Queen, Grateful Dead were huge in the US in the 70s, too (and beyond).

Terrapin_Station · 08-19-2016, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

If you lived in America you'd be very tired of talk radio. There's only so many times you can listen to Rush Limbaugh before losing faith in humanity.

Talk radio used to have a crapload of local hosts.

But stations realized that running syndicated programming (like Rush Limbaugh) was a lot cheaper than paying a slate of local hosts, unfortunately, and that it would do just as well in the ratings, so most local hosts got the boot. There are probably more local sports-talk hosts now instead.

I worked in talk radio for a bit about 25 years ago--I co-hosted a local morning drive show while I was back in graduate school (and I was still gigging as a musician, too). We also had a "sister" music station in the same building--their DJ booth was right on the other side of our talk studio, actually, with a window between them so we could see each other while we were doing our shows. So that gave me a bit more insight into music radio, too.

I did talk radio in the South Florida market (Miami/Ft. Lauderdale/West Palm Beach), and at that time there were four major AM stations in that market, stations with signals powerful enough to reach pretty much the whole area (100 or so miles wide), that had a full slate of local talk hosts. If any of them have any local hosts now, it would only be a couple in between syndicated programming. That sucks because talk radio was much more interesting when there was a wide variety of different voices/opinions.

Dylstew · 08-19-2016, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

but you give a **** about 90's crusty dinosaur rock bands your parents liked in high school see: Green Day

You wouldn't know Punk if it kicked your teeth in, kid

You're jumping someone else's train

I don't even care much for Green Day, actually.
I just think it's Punk.

JGuy Grungeman · 08-19-2016, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Terrapin_Station

There have always been a lot of artists who were huge in the UK and almost unknown in the US, and vice versa--artists who were huge in the US and almost unknown in the UK.

Cliff Richard is a good example. In the US, he's thought of as a "two-hit wonder"--the two hits being "Devil Woman" and "We Don't Talk Anymore". Another good example is Robbie Williams. A lot of people in the US basically don't know him at all.Stone the Crows and Taste are extremely obscure in the US; almost no one would know them. Re Taste, many US guitarists (around my age or older) would know Rory Gallagher's name--he was mentioned in guitar magazines like Guitar Player relatively often for example, but a much smaller percentage would be at all familiar with any of his music (and same deal with Robin Trower by the way). Savoy Brown never had much more than a cult following in the US, though they did have a solid cult following. Foghat, however, which was basically an offshoot of Savoy Brown--was HUGE in the US for awhile in the 70s and into the early 80s. In that same vein, ZZ Top was also huge.

Jimi Hendrix, Deep Purple, Black Sabbath, Grand Funk, Bad Company, Allman Brothers Band, Ted Nugent, Aerosmith, Alice Cooper and many others in those veins were also huge in the US during the 70s (and beyond).

And for whatever reasons, a lot of people overlook Zeppelin's prog, folk/country and funk influences, which were all significant. In that vein, artists like Jethro Tull, Queen, Grateful Dead were huge in the US in the 70s, too (and beyond).

I forget, but were you the guy who said GD were prog? Not bad talking your post or anything. Just saying.

08-19-2016, 12:38 AM	#12412 (permalink)
Dylstew Music Addict Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 1,366	Radio here in the Netherlands is awful, probably for the same reasons it is everywhere else, but there's less channels and like **in' none exist that are permanent talk radio, If I want to hear random folks talking I need to switch constantly and it's usually like 2 channels who do it top. It kind of baffles me the radio is practicallly only used for music these days despite all the possibilties, yet they do a ty job of that one thing. All they do is play current popular pop singles, and then play some old popular pop sigles, and they play the same songs waaaaay too much. They can't EVER play another song off the album an artist, nope, has to be that single made for the radio. And how DARE you put an"obscure"(And by that I mean has never been mainstream so it might be popular as ) artist on the radio! All I want is some stations who actually play what the they like and don't give a ** about wether someting's a single or popular. I've heard that once on this metal/punk segement that's an hour a week on one of the radiostations. I heard some random Death Metal, and A Wilhelm Scream. That was it, the rest was normal single radio. Everynight I turn on the radio as background noise so I won't feel afraid alone, but man the songs get annoying very quickly, I should start using internet radio instead.

08-19-2016, 03:50 AM	#12414 (permalink)
OccultHawk one-balled nipple jockey Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Dirty Souf Biatch Posts: 22,033	If there's 20 stations of ** and 1 station of cool interesting music it's great. I don't give a ** that Christian right wing retards are on stations I don't listen to