Unpopular Music Opinions

crash_override · 09-22-2010, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by duga

I love the Chili Peppers personally... They are one of the first bands that really sparked my interest in collecting a complete discography. I was obsessed with how different their early stuff was from their later stuff. They also get some respect for having more than one peak. They were pretty popular in the 80s, they were gigantic in the early 90s, and blew up again in the early 00s after seemingly being past their prime. Only Aerosmith has had so many recoveries.

It's all about not being afraid... to take a stand....

sleepy jack · 09-23-2010, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by duga

I love the Chili Peppers personally... They are one of the first bands that really sparked my interest in collecting a complete discography. I was obsessed with how different their early stuff was from their later stuff. They also get some respect for having more than one peak. They were pretty popular in the 80s, they were gigantic in the early 90s, and blew up again in the early 00s after seemingly being past their prime. Only Aerosmith has had so many recoveries.

I don't really understand why I should respect a band for making multiple "comebacks." All that says to me is they either compromised musical integrity for the sake of being loved by the mainstream, or they never had any to begin with and just churned out crap that was so bad even the masses couldn't get attached to it.

That aside I think you may be a little off on just how many peaks they've had. Go back and look at the dates of their singles and albums. They didn't catch the attention of the mainstream at all until the release of Mother's Milk at the very end of the 80s. I suppose you could argue the album before it had some success, but not much and the point remains it would still be a progression to success from there. After that was Blood Sugar Sex Magik in early nineties, which was an even bigger album for them. So, as you can see there was no real peak-and-dip in success from the 80s to 90s.

If you follow their career after that you don't really see any substantial change either. The following album, One Hot Minute, while not as successful as it's predecessor, still had Aeroplane and My Friends, which was a number one single. Hardly a dip. They then followed that up with Californication (which came out at the very end of the 90s - when you claim they were on one of their supposed 'dips') which had a song that won a Grammy, as well as Californication and Otherside, two huge songs. After that was By the Way, which had two number one singles and then another song that hit the top 10. So unless you consider the period when they didn't release an album as a dip in their popularity, I don't understand where there peak in the early 2000s come from if they never were unpopular in the first place. Then of course, they released their most recent album, Stadium Arcadium, which debuted at the top of the Billboard 200.

The Red Hot Chili Peppers never went away once they got into the mainstream's eyes. One album may have been less popular then the one before it (e.g. One Hot Minute following Blood Sugar Sex Magik) but that's only if you consider having one less chart topping single then the album before it a huge dip in popularity. One could go on to make a different argument, which is that "oh well that's even better that they managed to stay popular" but I don't think popularity has any relation to musical credibility. It's a bad argument if you want to defend the supposed worth of the Red Hot Chili Peppers, or any artist really.

duga · 09-23-2010, 08:18 AM

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Well, you put a lot more work into that post then I did. I was just mentioning what impressed me about them. To each his own...I know plenty of people who don't like them. Their albums may have done consistently well, but I was referring more to the feeling everyone had about them during those times. In the 80's, Hillel died...everyone thought they were done. They still managed to release Mother's Milk and then BSSM after that. Then John left and everyone thought they were done. One Hot Minute may have had a couple charters but no one felt it was a true Chili Peppers album with Dave. Then John comes back and Californication hits it big...bringing us to today. Anyway, I wasn't saying you owe them respect because of these things, I was just saying why I respect them.

Violent & Funky · 09-23-2010, 11:06 AM

Flea is an incredible bassist and all of the guitarists they have had are tremendously talented musicians in their own right. I don't know what about that people can't enjoy...

clutnuckle · 09-23-2010, 11:36 AM

Skill on your instrument doesn't necessarily equal good music being made from them; I've always found videos of Flea as an individual to be enthralling and whatnot, but when it comes to listening to a full RHCP album, I give up.

RVCA · 09-23-2010, 11:47 AM

And it's not just Kiedis' voice that I dislike, it's the style of music that they play. Funk rock. Something about is just irritating, instead of enjoyable.

Violent & Funky · 09-23-2010, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by clutnuckle

Skill on your instrument doesn't necessarily equal good music being made from them; I've always found videos of Flea as an individual to be enthralling and whatnot, but when it comes to listening to a full RHCP album, I give up.

That's a good point and I agree with you. I'm not like a Dream Theater fan or something; I think most of you realize this about me.

But damn they write some awesome riffs too. Flea has tons of great bass lines and their guitarists were always funky and fairly melody-driven. There isn't much noodling on the guitar in their 80s output...

Violent & Funky · 09-23-2010, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by RVCA

And it's not just Kiedis' voice that I dislike, it's the style of music that they play. Funk rock. Something about is just irritating, instead of enjoyable.

What about it? Do you dislike electric bass? Because the lyrics usually suck?

Wyrd · 09-23-2010, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by James

IV is probably Led Zep's 2nd worst album.

Why does this scream "Said it for Shock Value!" to me?

~~James~~ · 09-23-2010, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Wyrd

Why does this scream "Said it for Shock Value!" to me?

I don't know why. I already explained my reasons so i'm thinking you're just having an off day.

09-23-2010, 08:18 AM	#4493 (permalink)
duga MB quadrant's JM Vincent Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 3,762	^ Well, you put a lot more work into that post then I did. I was just mentioning what impressed me about them. To each his own...I know plenty of people who don't like them. Their albums may have done consistently well, but I was referring more to the feeling everyone had about them during those times. In the 80's, Hillel died...everyone thought they were done. They still managed to release Mother's Milk and then BSSM after that. Then John left and everyone thought they were done. One Hot Minute may have had a couple charters but no one felt it was a true Chili Peppers album with Dave. Then John comes back and Californication hits it big...bringing us to today. Anyway, I wasn't saying you owe them respect because of these things, I was just saying why I respect them. __________________ Confusion will be my epitaph...

09-23-2010, 11:06 AM	#4494 (permalink)
Violent & Funky FUNky Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Midland, MI Posts: 2,482	Flea is an incredible bassist and all of the guitarists they have had are tremendously talented musicians in their own right. I don't know what about that people can't enjoy... __________________ http://www.last.fm/user/ohio0808 sometimes I don't thrill you sometimes I think I'll kill you just don't let me fuck up will you 'cause when I need a friend it's still you

09-23-2010, 11:36 AM	#4495 (permalink)
clutnuckle Music Addict Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: -_-_-_-_~__~-~_-`_`-~_-`-~-~ Posts: 1,276	Skill on your instrument doesn't necessarily equal good music being made from them; I've always found videos of Flea as an individual to be enthralling and whatnot, but when it comes to listening to a full RHCP album, I give up.

09-23-2010, 11:47 AM	#4496 (permalink)
RVCA （￣ー￣） Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 3,270	And it's not just Kiedis' voice that I dislike, it's the style of music that they play. Funk rock. Something about is just irritating, instead of enjoyable.