Top-50 All-time (Rough Draft) (lyrics, country, dance, metal, rap)

Laces Out Dan! · 07-19-2007, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JayJamJah

1. Led Zeppelin
2. The Beatles
3. The Rolling Stones
4. The Who
5. Jimi Hendrix
6. Bob Dylan
7. Eric Clapton
8. Elvis Pressley
9. Stevie Wonder
10. Van Morrison
11. Queen
12. Janis Joplin
13. Green Day
14. Rage Against the Machine
15. Mettalica
16. Nirvana
17. Pink Floyd
18. Credence Clearwater Revival
19. System of a Down
20. The Grateful Dead
21. The Doors
22. The Beach Boys
23. The Allman Brothers Band
24. Bob Marley
25. Chuck Berry
26. Incubus
27. CSNY
28. Lynrd Skynard
29. The Eagles
30. The Police
31. 311
32. Jack Johnson
33. Elvis Costello
34. Aretha Franklin
35. Genesis
36. The Clash
37. Ben Harper
38. Boston
39. Black Sabbath
40. Bad Company
41. Red Hot Chili Peppers
42. Aerosmith
43. Pearl Jam
44. The Guess Who
45. Styx
46. James Brown
47. Buddy Holly
48. Ray Charles
49. Tu-Pac
50. David Bowie

lulz

~~i get high sometimes~~ · 07-19-2007, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JayJamJah

I think there is a reason that many of "cliche" greats have become so. They are more widely relevant and influential.

I know your opinion on Dylan is one that is widely shared by folk fans, however Dylan transcended folk and wrote amazing rock songs as well which is an almost unanimous contention among popular opinion in the music world. Pete Seeger and Arlo Guthrie while perhaps expressing their music more articulately and skillfully did so on a much smaller level and therefore rarely garner the type of attention that would put them on similar lists.

I resent your contention that the list is cliche and would be delighted to argue it point by point on occasion if the thread keeps your interest.

im pretty sure he was talkin woody guthrie there.
also, i like your token rap artist added in down there.

sleepy jack · 07-19-2007, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by JayJamJah

I think there is a reason that many of "cliche" greats have become so. They are more widely relevant and influential.

Dude you put Green Day but not the Ramones.

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Originally Posted by JayJamJah

I know your opinion on Dylan is one that is widely shared by folk fans, however Dylan transcended folk and wrote amazing rock songs as well which is an almost unanimous contention among popular opinion in the music world. Pete Seeger and Arlo Guthrie while perhaps expressing their music more articulately and skillfully did so on a much smaller level and therefore rarely garner the type of attention that would put them on similar lists.

There are plenty of folk to rock crossovers, everyone tends to overhype Dylans rock stuff too. Some of it was good, but he released a plethora of mediocre folk rock albums which no one seems to want to point out and I was talking about Woody Guthrie, you know the guy who is considered one of the most important folk artists ever and is often placed on top of best folk artists lists.

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Originally Posted by JayJamJah

I resent your contention that the list is cliche and would be delighted to argue it point by point on occasion if the thread keeps your interest.

Its not cliche? You could find similar lists everywhere.

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Originally Posted by MHDTV

Bob Dylan is the most famous folk artist of all time. That's why.

So fame means its deserving to be placed above more important artists? Going by this I suppose Britney Spears is more important than Sonic Youth, right?

Son of JayJamJah · 07-19-2007, 10:35 PM

Updated List: (One hour after original stream of consciousness list)

1. Led Zeppelin
2. The Beatles
3. The Rolling Stones
4. Jimi Hendrix
5. The Who
6. Bob Dylan
7. Eric Clapton
8. Elvis Presley
9. Stevie Wonder
10. Van Morrison
11. Queen
12. Green Day
13. Rage Against the Machine
14. Metallica
15. Nirvana
16. Pink Floyd
17. Creedence Clearwater Revival
18. The Grateful Dead
19. The Doors
20. The Beach Boys
21. The Allman Brothers Band
22. Bob Marley
23. Chuck Berry
24. Johnny Cash
25. Janis Joplin
26. Incubus
27. Pearl Jam
28. CSNY
29. The Police
30. System of a Down
31. Elvis Costello
32. Aretha Franklin
33. 311
34. David Bowie
35. Black Sabbath
36. Roy Orbison
37. Rakim
38. The Clash
39. Boston
40. Live
41. Lynyrd Skynyrd
42. Genesis
43. The Eagles
44. Bad Company
45. Red Hot Chili Peppers
46. Ray Charles
47. Tupac
48. Garth Brooks
49. Aerosmith
50. Jack Johnson

Better?
Worse?
Still missing anyone?

~~i get high sometimes~~ · 07-19-2007, 10:39 PM

any band that writes about lord of the rings is not worthy of a number one position on an all time best list.

Son of JayJamJah · 07-19-2007, 10:42 PM

RE: The Ramones

They have one song. All of them. They all sound the same. Green Day is the largest act of the last decade.

Opinions are what they are, don't scold me for following popular opinion by selecting bands you consider cliche among the best ever and then scold again when I go outside the box and put Green Day so high on the list in favor of the Ramones who I personal enjoy but feel are very overrated. I would rather debate the topics then have you act condescendingly hypocritical. I know what I typed, just respond to it if your wish to, don't interview yourself please.

Sorry about the Arlo\Woody Guthrie thing that was lame. At least i didn't say Bob Segar though right? And I agree folk music is under represented, but at this time I am not in my mind qualified to properly select representatives. That's why I am putting it out there for public scrutiny and improvement.

Son of JayJamJah · 07-19-2007, 10:43 PM

Zeppelin will not be moving. No one even close in my mind and Ramble On is among the most brilliant songs of all-time despite it's Tolkenesque lyrics.

sleepy jack · 07-19-2007, 10:44 PM

Yeah sorry, I thought this was going to be an actual attempt at a best 50, and I realize thats all subjective but usually a good try can be pulled. I didn't know it was a popularity contest, in which case i'm sure you can find a useful site probably billboard.com or whatever for better advice then any of us could give you.

Also, Garth Brooks sucks, and thats not opinion its fact. I don't understand how you can place him on there and excluding Johnny Cash, none of the other highwaymen. Theres better country artists then them, but they're all very well known so ignorance shouldn't be an excuse there. Plus theres better country/rock hybrids then Brooks, Wilco for instance.

joyboyo53 · 07-19-2007, 10:45 PM

Agreed MHDTV

here is my opinion.

jack johnson, although i enjoy his music, does not belong anywhere in a top 100 list. 311 is perfectly placed, they are really good, but not top 25 material by any means. pearl jam deserves a higher placement, directly next to nirvana. get elvis presley off and johnny cash in his place. wtf is soad doing on there... not only do they suck, but look at the bands you listed them higher than. that is equivalent to two of the 7 deadly sins. and green day? maybe like 49 because dookie was so good. i havnt liked anything they have done in like 10+ years. honestly i think maybe dmb coulda gotten a little love, the guy has had multiple quality albums, is surrounded by talented musicians, and released new sounds many times throughout his career. plus if your gonna throw a rapper in there throw up something tight like wu tang clan.

oh yea... i agree with the beatles in a top 3, but rolling stones a top 25, and led zepplin maybe a top 50.

Son of JayJamJah · 07-19-2007, 10:50 PM

Crowquill you suck.

You are a bummer and a half man.

Just because you like inferior music does not mean everyone else is just following the crowd. If you'd have seen The Who and Zeppelin and Hendrix and the like you might have a better understanding for why they are revered as they are. Either way you just seem like an angry dude and we can't hang out I bet.

07-19-2007, 10:35 PM	#14 (permalink)
Son of JayJamJah Occams Razor Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: End of the Earth Posts: 2,472	Updated List: (One hour after original stream of consciousness list) 1. Led Zeppelin 2. The Beatles 3. The Rolling Stones 4. Jimi Hendrix 5. The Who 6. Bob Dylan 7. Eric Clapton 8. Elvis Presley 9. Stevie Wonder 10. Van Morrison 11. Queen 12. Green Day 13. Rage Against the Machine 14. Metallica 15. Nirvana 16. Pink Floyd 17. Creedence Clearwater Revival 18. The Grateful Dead 19. The Doors 20. The Beach Boys 21. The Allman Brothers Band 22. Bob Marley 23. Chuck Berry 24. Johnny Cash 25. Janis Joplin 26. Incubus 27. Pearl Jam 28. CSNY 29. The Police 30. System of a Down 31. Elvis Costello 32. Aretha Franklin 33. 311 34. David Bowie 35. Black Sabbath 36. Roy Orbison 37. Rakim 38. The Clash 39. Boston 40. Live 41. Lynyrd Skynyrd 42. Genesis 43. The Eagles 44. Bad Company 45. Red Hot Chili Peppers 46. Ray Charles 47. Tupac 48. Garth Brooks 49. Aerosmith 50. Jack Johnson Better? Worse? Still missing anyone?

07-19-2007, 10:39 PM	#15 (permalink)
~~i get high sometimes~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 240	any band that writes about lord of the rings is not worthy of a number one position on an all time best list.

07-19-2007, 10:42 PM	#16 (permalink)
Son of JayJamJah Occams Razor Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: End of the Earth Posts: 2,472	RE: The Ramones They have one song. All of them. They all sound the same. Green Day is the largest act of the last decade. Opinions are what they are, don't scold me for following popular opinion by selecting bands you consider cliche among the best ever and then scold again when I go outside the box and put Green Day so high on the list in favor of the Ramones who I personal enjoy but feel are very overrated. I would rather debate the topics then have you act condescendingly hypocritical. I know what I typed, just respond to it if your wish to, don't interview yourself please. Sorry about the Arlo\Woody Guthrie thing that was lame. At least i didn't say Bob Segar though right? And I agree folk music is under represented, but at this time I am not in my mind qualified to properly select representatives. That's why I am putting it out there for public scrutiny and improvement.

07-19-2007, 10:43 PM	#17 (permalink)
Son of JayJamJah Occams Razor Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: End of the Earth Posts: 2,472	Zeppelin will not be moving. No one even close in my mind and Ramble On is among the most brilliant songs of all-time despite it's Tolkenesque lyrics.

07-19-2007, 10:45 PM	#19 (permalink)
joyboyo53 down the rabbit hole Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: the mountain called monkey Posts: 764	Agreed MHDTV here is my opinion. jack johnson, although i enjoy his music, does not belong anywhere in a top 100 list. 311 is perfectly placed, they are really good, but not top 25 material by any means. pearl jam deserves a higher placement, directly next to nirvana. get elvis presley off and johnny cash in his place. wtf is soad doing on there... not only do they suck, but look at the bands you listed them higher than. that is equivalent to two of the 7 deadly sins. and green day? maybe like 49 because dookie was so good. i havnt liked anything they have done in like 10+ years. honestly i think maybe dmb coulda gotten a little love, the guy has had multiple quality albums, is surrounded by talented musicians, and released new sounds many times throughout his career. plus if your gonna throw a rapper in there throw up something tight like wu tang clan. oh yea... i agree with the beatles in a top 3, but rolling stones a top 25, and led zepplin maybe a top 50.

07-19-2007, 10:50 PM	#20 (permalink)
Son of JayJamJah Occams Razor Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: End of the Earth Posts: 2,472	Crowquill you suck. You are a bummer and a half man. Just because you like inferior music does not mean everyone else is just following the crowd. If you'd have seen The Who and Zeppelin and Hendrix and the like you might have a better understanding for why they are revered as they are. Either way you just seem like an angry dude and we can't hang out I bet.