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Old 08-07-2007, 05:28 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Old 08-07-2007, 06:34 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Whats wrong with pop music? Theres a lot of crappy pop, but a lot of great pop too. Pop music is catchy music, and whats wrong with that?

I like a lot of pop. The Beach Boys, Michael Jackson, Fleetwood Mac, Queen, Todd Rundgren, Elton John, Van Halen, The Smiths, Big Star, Cheap Trick, The Police and of course The Beatles.
I really would'nt class a lot of those as pop:

Fleetwood Mac-Began life as a blues rock band (and a fookin good one at that) before descending into aor mediocrity; however their music is still intrinsically rock, however diluted it seems.

Queen-They wrote rock songs with a pop sensibility. They mastered the art of the chrorus, but virtually all their output is rock orientated. Their aim was to appeal to as many fans as possible.

Van Halen-Commercial-yes, pop music? No. Eruption could not be classed as a pop song by any stretch of the imagination. JUMP seems like a pop song, it's commercial rock that's all. A lot of their music is blues based really.

The Smiths-I don't know anyone who would class these as a pop band, they are a prototype 80's indie band.

The Beatles- If their latter output came out in the 70's, they would probably be classed as a rock band. Their earlier output virtually defined pop music, so unfortunately;we have to give them a pop tag.

Pop music is music that the general populace listens to and embraces for as long as it catches their interest. People who like pop music (and pop music only), listen to music on a purely entertainment level, and rarely listen for musical/lyrical prowess, musical ideals, musicianship, ideology etc. That is why it is pop music. The bands I have quoted did'nt (just) make records for profit/entertainment.
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Old 08-07-2007, 06:47 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I really would'nt class a lot of those as pop:

Fleetwood Mac-Began life as a blues rock band (and a fookin good one at that) before descending into aor mediocrity; however their music is still intrinsically rock, however diluted it seems.
I was talking about post mid 70s Mac.

Nicks/Buckingham era Mac >>>>>>>>> Green era.

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Queen-They wrote rock songs with a pop sensibility. They mastered the art of the chrorus, but virtually all their output is rock orientated. Their aim was to appeal to as many fans as possible.
You fail to understand that rock can still be pop.

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Van Halen-Commercial-yes, pop music? No. Eruption could not be classed as a pop song by any stretch of the imagination. JUMP seems like a pop song, it's commercial rock that's all. A lot of their music is blues based really.
But Van Halen have a lot of very catchy, poppy songs which get radioplay like you wouldn't believe. Maybe pop metal is the correct term, all I know is that they're pop-something.

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The Smiths-I don't know anyone who would class these as a pop band, they are a prototype 80's indie band.
I meant their music more than their status.

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The Beatles- If their latter output came out in the 70's, they would probably be classed as a rock band. Their earlier output virtually defined pop music, so unfortunately;we have to give them a pop tag.
Even their more experimental works like Revolver and Sgt Peppers are pop to some degree. Taxman, Got To Get You Into My Life, With A Little Help From My Friends, Getting Better, all pop songs. And Abbey Road is a pop album any way you slice it.

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Pop music is music that the general populace listens to and embraces for as long as it catches their interest.
And this dosen't define The Beatles how again?

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But its wrong to say all pop music lacks those qualities.
That is why it is pop music. The bands I have quoted did'nt (just) make records for profit/entertainment.
Our definitions of pop music is different. If its very catchy and accessible, its pop music. Meaning almost any music of any genre can be pop music.
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Old 08-07-2007, 07:11 PM   #24 (permalink)
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That can be said for many genres.
I would pop music is most frequent offender.

Would you agree?
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Old 08-07-2007, 07:12 PM   #25 (permalink)
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I really do not know how to come back on this. We are both right, and we are both wrong. Pop music to me remains a musical form to people who don't actually like music a great deal, and are totally oblivious to any talent and ideology that is behind music. Pop music at it's purest form is music to make money by, therefore I cannot equate many bands with this tag. If they become popular by default, then that is par for the course. If we said that music that is catchy and accessible, then we could add PINK FLOYD/ROLLING STONES/LED ZEPPELIN/METALLICA to this list. They are on big labels, easily reachable to people and they can have instantly recognisable songs. I don't think many of us would dare to say they are pop bands, but the description of a pop band would fit the criteria.
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The Beatles are a Rock and Roll band first and foremost, but they are also among the most versatile bands ever and certainly dabbled in pop and baroque pop music from time to time. I'd say calling them a pop band is fair.
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I would pop music is most frequent offender.

Would you agree?
Grindcore anybody?

I wouldn't call Pink Floyd a pop band. But they do have pop songs. Another Brick In The Wall Part 2 is pop.
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Old 08-08-2007, 08:17 AM   #28 (permalink)
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this is why i hate genres, i should have just bit my tongue when i made that comment.
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Old 08-08-2007, 11:24 AM   #29 (permalink)
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ahh havent posted in forevers

get down by backstreet boys
summer girls & girl on tv by lfo
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not ready to make nice by dixie chicks
what hurts the most by rascal flatts

yeah...mostly really cheesy boy band stuff from the 90s
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