The Definitve List: Most Overrated Bands\Artists ever (lyric, alternative)

sleepy jack · 07-29-2008, 07:40 AM

He did give one, The Velvet Underground.

boo boo · 07-30-2008, 11:19 AM

I f*cking hate it when people argue over weither or not a band is part of a genre they just made up.

boo boo · 07-30-2008, 11:52 AM

Radiohead shouldn't be pigeonholed into such a dumb term weither it's taken seriously as a real genre or not. Radiohead are their own band, hipsters and proggies argue all the time over weither or not they should be considered alternative rock or progressive rock or something else, they don't quite conform to anything. Theres very few well known bands that have that kinda ambiguity.

I don't know what art pop is, but it seems like a very limiting term for a band like Radiohead since I don't think of them as a pop group. I don't think something should be called pop just becauses there some pop structures being used, because just about anything could be called pop then.

whogivesaflux · 07-30-2008, 12:04 PM

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Radiohead shouldn't be pigeonholed into such a dumb term weither it's taken seriously as a real genre or not. Radiohead are their own band, they could be considered alternative rock or progressive rock, but they don't conform to either. Theres very few bands that have that kinda ambiguity.

Progressive Rock! rotflol....dooooooodd! That's the longest stretch for the term I have ever heard. Alternative pop rock maybe, "Progressive" No way. Incidentally "pigeonholed" comparison and my original thoughts are miles apart. By that definition you gave, ANY band that a person felt sincerely fanatical about is above personal classification. I don't buy that for a second. The term "deserve" is mighty subjective.

boo boo · 07-30-2008, 12:47 PM

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Progressive Rock! rotflol....dooooooodd! That's the longest stretch for the term I have ever heard.

It's not a stretch at all, theres more to prog that just the nerdy stuff like Rush and ELP. Radiohead are heavly influenced by krautrock, and yes that is considered progressive rock.

I'd certainly consider Kid A progressive rock to some extent. And it's very easy to draw comparisons between songs like Paranoid Android and 2 + 2 = 5 and the work of say John Wetton era King Crimson.

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Alternative pop rock maybe

Wow, thats even a more retarded term than art pop, where in the hell are you getting these?

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"Progressive" No way.

So now I know I'm arguing with a closedminded fool.

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Incidentally "pigeonholed" comparison and my original thoughts are miles apart. By that definition you gave, ANY band that a person felt sincerely fanatical about is above personal classification. I don't buy that for a second. The term "deserve" is mighty subjective.

Thats a bunch of crap. If you think Radiohead are just a by the numbers pop band you're out of your mind.

whogivesaflux · 07-30-2008, 01:17 PM

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It's not a stretch at all, theres more to prog that just the nerdy stuff like Rush and ELP. Radiohead are heavly influenced by krautrock, and yes that is considered progressive rock.

I'd certainly consider Kid A progressive rock to some extent. And it's very easy to draw comparisons between songs like Paranoid Android and 2 + 2 = 5 and the work of say John Wetton era King Crimson.

Wow, thats even a more retarded term than art pop, where in the hell are you getting these?

So now I know I'm arguing with a closedminded fool.

Thats a bunch of crap. If you think Radiohead are just a by the numbers pop band you're out of your mind.

OK. Time to get real. I have some questions for your ass holiness if you would be kind enough to indulge me. Where did the term "Progressive Rock" come from? What does the term mean? It has an absolute definition and if you think for one second in your pea brained nonsensical mind that radiohead is progressive rock you are a bigger idiot than could be imagined.

Now, boy wonder, WTF does Progressive Rock mean?

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dude first of all i havent agreed with anything youve posted yet....but this ones the worst. im only ****in' 13 and i can hold my own against all these guys without "insuting myself"

and thats just about message boards some of the things you've said about music are so obliviusly wrong that i cant believe someone actually has that opinion!

Please give me an example specifically of something I said that was clinically and provably wrong. You're showing your age big time.

boo boo · 07-30-2008, 06:04 PM

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OK. Time to get real. I have some questions for your ass holiness if you would be kind enough to indulge me. Where did the term "Progressive Rock" come from? What does the term mean? It has an absolute definition and if you think for one second in your pea brained nonsensical mind that radiohead is progressive rock you are a bigger idiot than could be imagined.

Now, boy wonder, WTF does Progressive Rock mean?

I made a whole goddamn thread explaining what progressive rock is you jackass, it's in the prog/classic rock section, look it up.

Instead of wasting your time being a snob who refuses to admit he dosen't know everything about music you should learn that everyone has the right to their own definition of music genres and that yours is not written in f*cking stone.

Now stop being a jerk to everyone or I'm banning you.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 07-30-2008, 12:12 PM

I would love to debate your definition of art pop , but it's trying so hard to be clever it just ends up being totally meaningless.

I mean let's look at your definition

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art pop is a term I confabulated out of my proverbial cobwebs on the spot. It's a term that for me describes more so an effect the artist/band has socially that constitutes a resulting clique mentality.

In what way?

Any band could claim to have what could be considered 'a clique mentality' That's why you buy t shirts and sing along at gigs.

A band's image? it's message? it's politics? it's fashion? all of them? none of them?

You're being far to vague on this.

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It's a phenomenon that attaches and best lends itself to a commercial popularity drawn form a pseudo intellectual underground which is in reality neither.

You could have just written 'commercial' and saved yourself some time here , assuming that's what is you meant. If it isn't then perhaps you can clarify this as well.

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I believe in identifying responsibility rather than the premise. The measure of anything is best taken from result rather than appearance.

Pardon ?

Sorry but in this context this means absolutely nothing unless you are prepared to explain it.

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Bottom Line: ANY music that has a reputation that is popular enough to proceed it demands the sincerest of scrutiny from me as a listener and long time musical appreciator.

I think that most people here would consider themselves something of that sort. I don't really see why it needs spelling out though, and it doesn't really tell us anything about what you are trying to define.

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Might try actually defending your position there boo boo.

Until you define what you are talking about with something more concrete I don't really see what Boo Boo has to defend.

whogivesaflux · 07-30-2008, 12:20 PM

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I would love to debate your definition of art pop , but it's trying so hard to be clever it just ends up being totally meaningless.

I mean let's look at your definition

In what way?

Any band could claim to have what could be considered 'a clique mentality' That's why you buy t shirts and sing along at gigs.

A band's image? it's message? it's politics? it's fashion? all of them? none of them?

You're being far to vague on this.

You could have just written 'commercial' and saved yourself some time here , assuming that's what is you meant. If it isn't then perhaps you can clarify this as well.

Pardon ?

Sorry but in this context this means absolutely nothing unless you are prepared to explain it.

I think that most people here would consider themselves something of that sort. I don't really see why it needs spelling out though, and it doesn't really tell us anything about what you are trying to define.

Until you define what you are talking about with something more concrete I don't really see what Boo Boo has to defend.

bummer, the way the board is set up it removes the thoughts you responded to. I PROMISE you a sincere response that I am certain you will appreciate as soon as I have time to open a second window and arrange the cut n pastes. I will say that by separating the linearity of the thoughts I presented, you are hacking the contextual meaning. I honestly think you know that though. Clever. I will be back soon.

edit: I think what I am going to do to show a sincere level of sincerity and appreciation for Radiohead is dig out my copy of Kid A and give it a spin. I remember going...OMG, this is terrible. Who knows, maybe I will re-orientate myself. I have done that with MANY groups. I will feedback along with a detailed response before the end of the day if I can find it readily. I have roughly 6000 CDs in the room I believe it's in so it may take a while to find it.

WWWP · 07-30-2008, 01:11 PM

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bummer, the way the board is set up it removes the thoughts you responded to. I PROMISE you a sincere response that I am certain you will appreciate as soon as I have time to open a second window and arrange the cut n pastes. I will say that by separating the linearity of the thoughts I presented, you are hacking the contextual meaning. I honestly think you know that though. Clever. I will be back soon.

edit: I think what I am going to do to show a sincere level of sincerity and appreciation for Radiohead is dig out my copy of Kid A and give it a spin. I remember going...OMG, this is terrible. Who knows, maybe I will re-orientate myself. I have done that with MANY groups. I will feedback along with a detailed response before the end of the day if I can find it readily. I have roughly 6000 CDs in the room I believe it's in so it may take a while to find it.

Ugh. Stop talking and say something.