The Monkey

Rock is better than all those other genres combined. And blues, the second best thing on your list, was greatly developed by British acts such as Cream, The Stones and Zed Zeppelin anyway.

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lucifer_sam

naivety isn't flattering. also,

WRONG.

ffs. jackhammer you know as well as I do that hip-hop's emergence in the world might have been crafted from a menagerie of styles but it was largely the work of american artists to bear its fruit...

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jackhammer

Of course it was but the simple fact of the matter is that Talking (toasting-Rapping) happened over dubplates in jamacian soundsystems to which America always seems to completely ignore with the emergence of rap. Many tracks were specifically created for this purpose. Of course it was completely modified an essentially completely honed by america but I like people to hear about the history too as it seems to have been swept under the carpet.

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lucifer_sam

Yes but the transformation to hip-hop took place in America. Even if its roots lay outside, hip-hop has always been almost exclusively American.

so I feel comfortable sweeping it under the carpet

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Molecules

wikipedia is never gospel...

i would't try to claim hip hop isn't a North American conception, but to reinforce the facts that JH has been dropping, listen to the foundations of the second wave - De La, KRS One, Tribe - they all drop frequent references to ragga music, Jamaican culture and especially Rastafarianism, many are of Afro-Carribean descent. And as you know hardly any of them are patriotic, bible-bashing Uncle Sam types and weren't proud of their American roots.
It was a big mixture, although I'll acknowledge that the earliest hip-hop was born out of the NY club scene/ the dozens etc stylistically, I have no idea what they were listening to. I mean you can't get any more NYC than 'the Message'...

Hip-hop is an American art form but the US was built on alien cultures, especially West Indians in the urban ghettos. That just deserves credence I think

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The Monkey

Being flattering has never been my goal.

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ProggyMan

Lol, are you serious?

Janszoon

LOL. I know, right. I'm not even touching that one.

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