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Eric Clapton isn't any more racist than say, Elvis Costello.

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lucifer_sam

The Birmingham immigration shit and I seem to remember Clapton saying something derogative about Jimi Hendrix (he implied that he shouldn't be producing psychedelic music because of the color of his skin). He immediately regretted his statement, and as a sign, thereafter he invited African-American musicians to perform in his band. It was all pretty much all racist bullshit though.

And yes, Elvis Costello is too a racist.

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I doubt Lydon is really racist, wasn't he hanging about in ska clubs before the Pistols? You could say that that isn't enough to say he isn't racist but then would a racist really hang around in a mainly black scene?

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he was a notorious champion of Afro-Caribbean music in the late seventies, hell reggae was punk before the bands started forming and playing in London at least. but apparently he's since become a massive bigot. so he probably doesn't talk to Don anymore, or that bloke who was in his band. i'm pretty sure he'll release a statement with his side of the story, so far all i've read is Kele Okelere's thing in the NME, which forgive me for saying so isn't quite the eye-witness fact-based journalism I require to decide the man who wrote 'Careering' is a racist ****

oh and the Noel Gallagher thing wasn't consciously racist, it was just ****ing ridiculous and highlighted the race/class divides in this country that we all already knew were there. And Bizzle actually had something along the lines of 'you black ****' spray painted on his tour bus while he was performing so...

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The skinhead scene continued listening to ska right up to the 80s and through the National Front times. In fact it was the great irony of the scene that they clung in diehard fashion to ska music while being blatant full-blown National Front campaigner racists.

Also that Lydon hung out in ska clubs says nothing about whether or not he was racist. Loads of extremely racist white Americans in the 1950s used to listen to rhythm and blues with a passion. Liking a certain type of music does not indicate that you tolerate the people who made it. The music itself is a separate entity to the personalities behind it. I love a lot of Michael Jackson's material. I still would have loved the music even if it turned out he had been guilty. Also, just what is a "ska club" anyway? It could have been a club full of white people that listened to ska.

boo boo

You gotta point there. My grandmother has some pretty racist points of view.

But she loves Fats Domino and R&B, especially Motown.

And no you don't have to listen to only music that reflects your point of view or outlook on life.

Pat Boone is SO horrible. His Little Richard covers are ghastly.





It certainly took a while for the brothers in rock n roll to get any respect. Elvis, Jerry Lee, Buddy Holly, Ricky Nielson, Bill Haley and all those guys had to break into the scene first before black rock n roller's could ever be accepted by the mainstream. So until kids were finally free to listen to Little Richard, they had to settle for Pat, dark ages indeed.

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Oh yeah i already agreed with you to a point, of course you don't have to like music AND agree with whatever prejudices the musician has,. I mean, i love Bad Brains even though i know they're homophobic idiots.
I know little about the club scene then but do know that he did frequent clubs where ska and reggae was played and where it was mostly black people there.

I think in this case it was Lydon wanting to live up to the Rotten image of old, wanted to a be seen as that rebel image again so said something controversial.

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It is quite funny that some people call the early skinhead scene racist when they were listening to Reggae and Ska especially in England late 60's/early 70's and indeed beyond with 2 tone.

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That's what skinheads evolved into. It was a reaction by lower-class white Americans to the growing black nationalism movement.

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Noel Gallagher isn't racist, he's just a massively backwards closed-minded idiot.

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