Is racism REALLY that relevant in music? (singer, blues, hip-hop)

Molecules · 07-22-2008, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Piss Me Off

Noel Gallagher isn't racist, he's just a massively backwards closed-minded idiot.

he carries the torch for pub-rock like a true working class hero, la. oh sorry he's not from Liverpool *vomits*

Molecules · 07-22-2008, 04:15 PM

cheers sleepy. who to believe? they really should have beaten up that prick from Foals

WolfAtTheDoor · 07-22-2008, 04:23 PM

I think a few people do not understand what I meant by race not being relevant in TODAY'S music. I understand completely that it was an issue way back when, youth should not be mistaken for stupidity...

jackhammer · 07-22-2008, 05:09 PM

We do understand, we are just filling the thread out with historical footnotes.

WolfAtTheDoor · 07-22-2008, 05:53 PM

then I stand corrected. But on another note, I find it hilarious that Ricky Wilson of the Kaiser Chiefs stood in to 'back up' keke okereke in the fight.

And I think that if all those punks back in the 70's knew that one day Johnny Rotten would have an entourage, they would have threw out their safety pin dresses there and then.

Inuzuka Skysword · 07-22-2008, 05:55 PM

Does it matter if music expresses racism...NO!

People have a right to their own opinion, and if music isn't true to the heart it ends up sucking...hard.

sleepy jack · 07-22-2008, 11:41 PM

Yeah that makes sense because racist music doesn't suck or anything.

lucifer_sam · 07-22-2008, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by sleepy jack

Yeah that makes sense because racist music doesn't suck or anything.

Don't tell me you don't enjoy Rebel Johnny...

boo boo · 07-23-2008, 05:18 AM

Morrissey is either racist or he just has really bad taste in music because he seems to think all black music is "vile".

Though I've never been one to care too much about a songs lyrical content, I do have a problem with this kinda thing. I can accept it from bands like Fear because they do it in a rather goofy, tongue in cheek kinda way.

Piss Me Off · 07-23-2008, 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo

Morrissey is either racist or he just has really bad taste in music because he seems to think all black music is "vile".

Though I've never been one to care too much about a songs lyrical content, I do have a problem with this kinda thing. I can accept it from bands like Fear because they do it in a rather goofy, tongue in cheek kinda way.

In his defense that was only referring to Reggae and he's kind of taken that back now with the whole Attack Records thing.
But yeah, he annoys me when he's that ambiguous about it all, doesn't help him. There's time like The National Front Disco where it's quite clearly satire but then there's songs like Asian Rut where it's less clear. Grr.

07-22-2008, 04:15 PM	#2 (permalink)
Molecules daddy don't Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: the Wastes Posts: 2,577	cheers sleepy. who to believe? they really should have beaten up that prick from Foals __________________ [SIZE="1"]Eff em tumble her

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jackhammer Ba and Be. Join Date: May 2007 Location: This Is England Posts: 17,331	We do understand, we are just filling the thread out with historical footnotes. __________________ It be my music and film collection. “A cynic by experience, a romantic by inclination and now a hero by necessity.”

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07-22-2008, 04:23 PM	#3 (permalink)
WolfAtTheDoor ironing your socks Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: I'm in a rocknroll band. huh. Posts: 396	I think a few people do not understand what I meant by race not being relevant in TODAY'S music. I understand completely that it was an issue way back when, youth should not be mistaken for stupidity...

07-22-2008, 05:53 PM	#5 (permalink)
WolfAtTheDoor ironing your socks Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: I'm in a rocknroll band. huh. Posts: 396	then I stand corrected. But on another note, I find it hilarious that Ricky Wilson of the Kaiser Chiefs stood in to 'back up' keke okereke in the fight. And I think that if all those punks back in the 70's knew that one day Johnny Rotten would have an entourage, they would have threw out their safety pin dresses there and then.

07-22-2008, 05:55 PM	#6 (permalink)
Inuzuka Skysword Existential Egoist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,468	Does it matter if music expresses racism...NO! People have a right to their own opinion, and if music isn't true to the heart it ends up sucking...hard.