An Infinite Number Of Things That Pisses Me Off About Music

Urban Hat€monger ? · 09-12-2008, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Cobe Kai

You're just a closed minded twat

If i'd not listened to any of it and reach that assumption then yes I would be a closed minded twat for thinking that. However I lived through the grunge era and listened to dozens of grunge albums with an open mind , and this the conclusion I have reached because of that.

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Originally Posted by Cobe Kai

The alternative thing was a great thing in music, because it told bands that they could be heard too!

Alternative to what? Mainstream rock on major record labels ? I already covered that in the original post go read it again. I can assure you that being someone who does actually listen to music on small labels both then and now that a lot of them were taken over by the big four major labels in the 90s meaning that those 4 labels had a even bigger monopoly on the music industry and getting heard while being on a small label became even more difficult. So please explain how this is a good thing.

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Originally Posted by Cobe Kai

And post-grunge bands are STILL in the mainstream, influencing more people.

Name 10 and tell me who they are influencing

Brad Stengel · 09-12-2008, 09:50 AM

Haha post-grunge is always referred to as "butt-rock" or "dude-core" when getting negative reviews, I love it.

And "grunge" wasnt so much a musical genre as an aesthetic, alot of those bands sounded NOTHING like Nirvana, the original "grunge" band. Urbans completely right, all it did was**** over the indie labels in the end, and make millions of 15-something pseudo music fans think they were listening to an 'alternative' to the mainstream, when they were really being forcefed corporate mainsteam rock the whole time.

But I still like Nirvana and that 3rd Pearl Jam album.

~~Gareth Brown~~ · 09-12-2008, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by WaspStar

I tend to agree, but for a different reason. It's somewhat annoying when someone who listens to Duran Duran and the Spice Girls suddenly starts "liking" Echo & The Bunnymen. It just cheapens the whole thing.

HAHAHAHA. You're an elitist prick.

Zombeels · 09-12-2008, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Whatsitoosit

Who the **** are "The Fall"?

guess I have some earning to do.

I haven't heard The Fall either. Maybe Urban can list a tenner.

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I never knew that song was about a transvestite... is this true?

Yes it is. I wonder if it was from personal experience.

Bo_ · 09-12-2008, 10:38 AM

LOL I saw Lindsay Lohan in a Bob Dylan shirt and I just had to laugh.

edit: whoops I just realized this thread is 80 goddamn pages long, I have a lot of reading to do.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 09-12-2008, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Zombeels

I haven't heard The Fall either. Maybe Urban can list a tenner.

There's two 13 track Fall starter kits in my Fall thread that are still working.

Meph1986 · 09-12-2008, 10:53 AM

I've heard of The Fall but the only thing I heard from them was the Bingo Master EP.

Kevorkian Logic · 09-12-2008, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

45 : BLING ... And It's Correlation With The State Of The Music Industry Today

As far as I am concerned you can sing about what you like. It doesn't mean I have to like it but then who am I to judge? If you want to sing about how many pounds of gold you wear or how many cars in your garage there are , or indeed how many garages you own or anything like that then who am I to stop you.

The problem arises when your singing about these things and then your record company starts whining about little money they have due to those evil , nasty and downright selfish illegal downloaders.

Hey Universal , remember when you released a song by some rapper , or maybe even some R&B artist where he was bragging he could kick anyones asses and take what he wants blah blah blah , I'm sure you do you seem to release one every other month.

Well that's what i'm doing to you ............. so suck it up. *

When your huge multi million selling star is forced to make a music video using cheapo ugly models dancing around a second-hand brown Ford Cortina and forced to eat dog shit sandwiches washed down by cheap own brand no frills cola in between takes , and it's all filmed on a camcorder by his best mate Brian THEN maybe we can talk about hardship.

* - Or at least I would if you bothered putting something good out for a change.

****ing awesome. my favorite so far.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 09-12-2008, 01:35 PM

41 : Bands From The 70s With Rubbish Set Lists

I have already touched upon this subject in a couple of past posts so it's about time I went into it in detail.

As you know I am an avid collector of bootlegs and live performances and one thing that really annoys me is the attitude some rock bands have towards choosing their set list to play at gigs.

The best way to illustrate this is to give you an example of one. Here is the ENTIRE set played by Deep Purple at the California Jam in 1974..

Burn
Might Just Take Your Life
Mistreated
Smoke on the Water
You Fool No One / The Mule
Space Truckin'

Now on the surface this looks like a tight little set played by your typical mid bill festival band maybe lasting 30-45 mins. However for this gig Deep Purple were the headliners and this 6/7 song set lasted JUST UNDER AN HOUR AND A HALF!!!!!!!!
Space Truckin itself is 28 minutes long. I mean come on , Deep Purple had 8 albums out when they played this gig are you telling me you can only manage to come up with 6 songs to play. It's not just them it's most big name rock bands from the 70s. I already mentioned The Who filling their set with the Tommy album in it's entirety and endless covers , and I could easily find examples of other bands doing the same.

One book I have enjoyed reading over the past year or so is a book on the subject to Hawkwind. In the book one of the band members (I think it was Nik Turner) says that during the 70s rock bands were embarrassed to play any of their hit singles. Playing a song you had doing well in the charts at a gig was a big no-no back then. And it's true , Everybody associates Hawkwind with Silver Machine as it's easily their most well known song yet in the 70s it hardly ever featured in their live set. So it's ok to play loads of blues covers , rock n roll covers , have long guitar / drum / keyboard / whatever solos , make extended versions of your songs so that they last over 20 minutes ... all that's fine. But play a song people have come to see you play? ...THE OUTRAGE !!!!

Lemmy was once asked by an interviewer why he played Ace Of Spades at every gig. Lem replied "If I went to see Chuck Berry and he didn't play Johnny B Goode i'd get up on stage and punch his teeth in"

I happen to agree with that. And if I ever go and see Motorhead they BETTER play Ace Of Spades.

jackhammer · 09-12-2008, 01:39 PM

They played Ace Of Spades when I went to see them

09-12-2008, 09:50 AM	#742 (permalink)
Brad Stengel This Space for Rent Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 815	Haha post-grunge is always referred to as "butt-rock" or "dude-core" when getting negative reviews, I love it. And "grunge" wasnt so much a musical genre as an aesthetic, alot of those bands sounded NOTHING like Nirvana, the original "grunge" band. Urbans completely right, all it did was**** over the indie labels in the end, and make millions of 15-something pseudo music fans think they were listening to an 'alternative' to the mainstream, when they were really being forcefed corporate mainsteam rock the whole time. But I still like Nirvana and that 3rd Pearl Jam album. __________________ These is the musics I own: http://rateyourmusic.com/collection/BradStengel/oo

09-12-2008, 10:38 AM	#745 (permalink)
Bo_ Groupie Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 4	LOL I saw Lindsay Lohan in a Bob Dylan shirt and I just had to laugh. edit: whoops I just realized this thread is 80 goddamn pages long, I have a lot of reading to do. __________________ So when you see your neighbor carryin' somethin', help him with his load. And don't go mistaking Paradise for that home across the road. Last edited by Bo_; 09-12-2008 at 11:05 AM.

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Meph1986 How High? Join Date: May 2008 Location: FL Posts: 684	I've heard of The Fall but the only thing I heard from them was the Bingo Master EP. __________________

09-12-2008, 01:35 PM	#749 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	41 : Bands From The 70s With Rubbish Set Lists I have already touched upon this subject in a couple of past posts so it's about time I went into it in detail. As you know I am an avid collector of bootlegs and live performances and one thing that really annoys me is the attitude some rock bands have towards choosing their set list to play at gigs. The best way to illustrate this is to give you an example of one. Here is the ENTIRE set played by Deep Purple at the California Jam in 1974.. Burn Might Just Take Your Life Mistreated Smoke on the Water You Fool No One / The Mule Space Truckin' Now on the surface this looks like a tight little set played by your typical mid bill festival band maybe lasting 30-45 mins. However for this gig Deep Purple were the headliners and this 6/7 song set lasted JUST UNDER AN HOUR AND A HALF!!!!!!!! Space Truckin itself is 28 minutes long. I mean come on , Deep Purple had 8 albums out when they played this gig are you telling me you can only manage to come up with 6 songs to play. It's not just them it's most big name rock bands from the 70s. I already mentioned The Who filling their set with the Tommy album in it's entirety and endless covers , and I could easily find examples of other bands doing the same. One book I have enjoyed reading over the past year or so is a book on the subject to Hawkwind. In the book one of the band members (I think it was Nik Turner) says that during the 70s rock bands were embarrassed to play any of their hit singles. Playing a song you had doing well in the charts at a gig was a big no-no back then. And it's true , Everybody associates Hawkwind with Silver Machine as it's easily their most well known song yet in the 70s it hardly ever featured in their live set. So it's ok to play loads of blues covers , rock n roll covers , have long guitar / drum / keyboard / whatever solos , make extended versions of your songs so that they last over 20 minutes ... all that's fine. But play a song people have come to see you play? ...THE OUTRAGE !!!! Lemmy was once asked by an interviewer why he played Ace Of Spades at every gig. Lem replied "If I went to see Chuck Berry and he didn't play Johnny B Goode i'd get up on stage and punch his teeth in" I happen to agree with that. And if I ever go and see Motorhead they BETTER play Ace Of Spades. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

09-12-2008, 01:39 PM	#750 (permalink)
jackhammer Ba and Be. Join Date: May 2007 Location: This Is England Posts: 17,331	They played Ace Of Spades when I went to see them __________________ It be my music and film collection. “A cynic by experience, a romantic by inclination and now a hero by necessity.”