Need to rant on (techno, alternative, pop, rock, albums)

Dacoro · 12-03-2008, 10:02 PM

Most music today is completely horrible. Not all music, but most music. It makes it very difficult for a young musician, like me, to have any hope of ever making it in the music industry. Music is all I have and all I want to do with my life, but if the world will no longer accept certain types of music. If I don't play the type of music that is on the radio, I probably will never have success with my guitar.

My guitar teacher says that my friend and I are both amazing at our instruments. He tells us that we will make it in the music industry, but he's too old and doesn't realize what kind of music is played on the radio.

After my last year of high school, I'm going to a community college and then going to The Musician's Institute of Technology in Hollywood, Los Angeles.

The other day, I went with my sister to see Twilight and I was completely sceptical, because I thought it was just some chick movie with strange romance, but when I heard Claire De Lune and Bella's Lullaby it almost brought tears to my eyes.

I know it's a semi-long post, but what I'm trying to say is that it's sad how messed up the Industry is these days. I believe that music that is being create now, will not be remembered such as song like Claire De Lune or Fugue and the likes. I just hope that somehow I can make NEW music that will be remembered for many years to come. I'm willing to dedicate my life to music and hopefully, one day, be known for helping bring back music that you can FEEL.

P.S. I'm definitely not saying ALL music sucks today, I'm just talking about MOST songs we hear that give us no feeling. They have no emotion to them. They won't be remembered. People are earning money off of nothing, when there are people out there who really deserve respect for what they create.

Sorry if this is in the wrong forum. I thought this would be the best place.

**Janszoon** · 12-03-2008, 10:06 PM

Nobody needs to bring back music you can feel. It's all over the place already.

Zarko · 12-03-2008, 10:24 PM

If you are any good you will be 'successful'. Depending on what your definition is though... Content with your own production and being able to touch anyone with your music is being 'successful' to many different people.

And you obviously didn't grow up listening to disco, 80's pop, copy after copy of alternative grunge over the last 3 decades. In those decades the radios were full of as much crap and money making generic pop as it is today. And it was even harder to find good stuff back then I presume.

Emotion is dependent on the listener. And would have to be one of the silliest arguments in regards to the quality of an era of music TBH.

Anteater · 12-03-2008, 10:39 PM

I didn't realize radio was the only place music came from these days. Or that the Industry was somehow relevant in the Information Age. Who'da thunk it right??

If you intend to make music for the sake of simply becoming popular or to be remembered, then you haven't experienced enough of what lies out there below the surface to have a good enough reason to be making music in the first place.

Dacoro · 12-03-2008, 10:52 PM

I'm sorry, I probably made it seem like I only wanted to be popular. I meant that I want to produce music that will touch peoples' hearts the way it used to. And no, the radio was not relevent then, but it is now. I never said I wanted to become popular, although it WOULD be nice to be able to make enough money to live off doing what I love. I only want to help bring music that is able to create emotions within the listener. Achieving that alone is success in my eyes.

And again, I didn't say ALL music on the radio was bad. It's just that a lot of the "musicians" you hear on the radio don't deserve as much respect as they actually get. BY NO MEANS do i intend to say that all music on the radio sucks.

sleepy jack · 12-03-2008, 10:55 PM

You're pointing out the obvious in saying the radio sucks and showing your ignorance by saying music isn't touching anymore. Stop looking to MTV for music and start looking at webzines and blogs.

PartisanRanger · 12-03-2008, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Dacoro

Hopefully I can create something as good and unique as lets say, Beethoven.

Dacoro · 12-03-2008, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Zarko

If you are any good you will be 'successful'. Depending on what your definition is though... Content with your own production and being able to touch anyone with your music is being 'successful' to many different people.

And you obviously didn't grow up listening to disco, 80's pop, copy after copy of alternative grunge over the last 3 decades. In those decades the radios were full of as much crap and money making generic pop as it is today. And it was even harder to find good stuff back then I presume.

Emotion is dependent on the listener. And would have to be one of the silliest arguments in regards to the quality of an era of music TBH.

While you are very correct, I have to disagree on the emotion being dependant on the listener. While in most cases that is true, some musicians have had such great writing ability that they could create emotion within listeners at will.

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Originally Posted by sleepy jack

You're pointing out the obvious in saying the radio sucks and showing your ignorance by saying music isn't touching anymore. Stop looking to MTV for music and start looking at webzines and blogs.

Haha you're right, I am being ignorant. All I'm saying is respect isn't being payed where it's due. Sorry for making another useless thread. Go ahead and lock it.

But I also didn't say that "Music isn't touching anymore." I'm saying that a lot of "respected" or "successful" people that are making livings off of their "music" don't even deserve what they are getting.

Comus · 12-03-2008, 11:00 PM

I get what you're saying here, and I dissagree with ethan when he says to stop looking at MTV and radio, because that is where most people get their music, that is the media which is most accessible. And it is unfortunate to see these being corrupted by crappy, poppy moneymakers.

I think the only way for good bands today is to tour, build up a reputation, have a homepage that is easily found and accessible and for the first few albums, let them get it for free, if you don't have a label that is. If you do of course the only way is still to tour, and the moment you have a following, they will spread the word, through personal and internet means.

Anteater · 12-03-2008, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Dacoro

I'm sorry, I probably made it seem like I only wanted to be popular. I meant that I want to produce music that will touch peoples' hearts the way it used to. And no, the radio was not relevent then, but it is now. I never said I wanted to become popular, although it WOULD be nice to be able to make enough money to live off doing what I love. I only want to help bring music that is able to create emotions within the listener. Achieving that alone is success in my eyes.

And again, I didn't say ALL music on the radio was bad. It's just that a lot of the "musicians" you hear on the radio don't deserve as much respect as they actually get. BY NO MEANS do i intend to say that all music on the radio sucks.

And I'm telling you that while the radio is still a viable means to reach people, you'll generally have better luck reaching a far more tolerant audience via the Internet. People who are weaned exclusively on radio wouldn't really give a damn about your music unless its full of hooks and power chords anyway.

Just forget about the music industry and focus on making music that doesn't cater to the expectations of a worthless American Idol-suckling audience who worship Chris Brown and think Nickelback and 3 Doors Down are the saviors of rock n' roll.

Comus and ethan gave you good advice also; I'd take their words seriously if I were you.

12-03-2008, 10:02 PM	#1 (permalink)
Dacoro Groupie Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 9	Need to rant on Most music today is completely horrible. Not all music, but most music. It makes it very difficult for a young musician, like me, to have any hope of ever making it in the music industry. Music is all I have and all I want to do with my life, but if the world will no longer accept certain types of music. If I don't play the type of music that is on the radio, I probably will never have success with my guitar. My guitar teacher says that my friend and I are both amazing at our instruments. He tells us that we will make it in the music industry, but he's too old and doesn't realize what kind of music is played on the radio. After my last year of high school, I'm going to a community college and then going to The Musician's Institute of Technology in Hollywood, Los Angeles. The other day, I went with my sister to see Twilight and I was completely sceptical, because I thought it was just some chick movie with strange romance, but when I heard Claire De Lune and Bella's Lullaby it almost brought tears to my eyes. I know it's a semi-long post, but what I'm trying to say is that it's sad how messed up the Industry is these days. I believe that music that is being create now, will not be remembered such as song like Claire De Lune or Fugue and the likes. I just hope that somehow I can make NEW music that will be remembered for many years to come. I'm willing to dedicate my life to music and hopefully, one day, be known for helping bring back music that you can FEEL. P.S. I'm definitely not saying ALL music sucks today, I'm just talking about MOST songs we hear that give us no feeling. They have no emotion to them. They won't be remembered. People are earning money off of nothing, when there are people out there who really deserve respect for what they create. Sorry if this is in the wrong forum. I thought this would be the best place. Last edited by Dacoro; 12-03-2008 at 11:01 PM.

12-03-2008, 10:06 PM	#2 (permalink)
Janszoon Mate, Spawn & Die Join Date: May 2007 Location: The Rapping Community Posts: 24,593	Nobody needs to bring back music you can feel. It's all over the place already.

12-03-2008, 10:24 PM	#3 (permalink)
Zarko Barely Disheveled Zombie Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 1,196	If you are any good you will be 'successful'. Depending on what your definition is though... Content with your own production and being able to touch anyone with your music is being 'successful' to many different people. And you obviously didn't grow up listening to disco, 80's pop, copy after copy of alternative grunge over the last 3 decades. In those decades the radios were full of as much crap and money making generic pop as it is today. And it was even harder to find good stuff back then I presume. Emotion is dependent on the listener. And would have to be one of the silliest arguments in regards to the quality of an era of music TBH.

12-03-2008, 10:52 PM	#5 (permalink)
Dacoro Groupie Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 9	I'm sorry, I probably made it seem like I only wanted to be popular. I meant that I want to produce music that will touch peoples' hearts the way it used to. And no, the radio was not relevent then, but it is now. I never said I wanted to become popular, although it WOULD be nice to be able to make enough money to live off doing what I love. I only want to help bring music that is able to create emotions within the listener. Achieving that alone is success in my eyes. And again, I didn't say ALL music on the radio was bad. It's just that a lot of the "musicians" you hear on the radio don't deserve as much respect as they actually get. BY NO MEANS do i intend to say that all music on the radio sucks.