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Old 06-24-2021, 06:14 PM   #31341 (permalink)
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Well, I've never had a reason to buy any Beatles records - it's pretty
much the same with a lot of pop music (or "classic rock" as its been called)
and so I have nearly zilch knowledge of this stuff. I remember one time at a
concert where this kind of "new wave" cellist was playing wild versions of
classic rock stuff and my wife had to tell me later what they were. I just grew
up with more experimental stuff or maybe it was just less popular stuff -
Right now, I'm wearing a Laibach t-shirt, so I kinda know "Let It Be."

Funny that you mention that Fricsay/Bartók.
About 90 minutes ago, I was listening to Fricsay/Strauss from this:


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Old 06-24-2021, 06:25 PM   #31342 (permalink)
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Consider these too:

(with Bartók on piano):




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Old 06-24-2021, 06:56 PM   #31343 (permalink)
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Wonderful Bartok recordings, thanks.

He was a superb pianist, there's a recording of him playing a few Scarlatti sonatas and you can really hear his elegance and precision of touch.

Re Beatles, I guess there are those who would say that for all their popularity they were important precisely for their experimentalism (within the confines of rock), as seen from stuff like Tomorrow Never Knows or certain tracks off the White Album... Not that it means everyone should listen to them obv! To each one's own.
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Yeah, many people listen to the stuff that's around them and then carry it
onward as they get older and that's kinda what I do as well - it's just that,
yes, I understand that in the comparison of what was being presented in those days,
the Beatles stuff probably was considered experimental - mostly in comparison with
what they did earlier too, I suppose, but what I heard was kinda them discovering
stuff that I was already listening to, so it really wasn't that big of a deal to me.
It reminds me of all the fuss people made in the day about Dylan plugging in a guitar -
and today I see articles still bringing that up as some kinda astounding feat.
Anyway, people extrapolate on their upbringing - it's a pretty natural thing to do.
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the Beatles stuff probably was considered experimental - mostly in comparison with what they did earlier
Yeah it's a good point, it's easy to overstate just how experimental they were - though to me experimentation within the very narrow confines of pop/rock has its own charm.


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It reminds me of all the fuss people made in the day about Dylan plugging in a guitar -
and today I see articles still bringing that up as some kinda astounding feat.
The entire body of discourse engendered by Bob Dylan is to me a striking example of the American genius for mythologizing or self-mythologizing. As an outside observer, I have no desire to partake in this practice, and those things that get the mythology machine into overdrive often bore me, whether it's Dylan or the ****ing Empire State Building. But on a certain level I also can't help admiring the energy that goes into it!
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Oh, yeah! I’m all for experimentation in pop/rock but,
maybe because of the, as you say, “ubiquity and canonicity”
coupled with the incessant reminders of people’s greatness,
(I guess those are the same things, aren’t they, so yeah...),
I gravitated toward other rock in other cultures - even if they
were themselves influenced
by those same ever-radio-present bands.
Basically, I grew up with very different radio listening as a child.

I really can’t even admire the energy aspect, because it seems
to be wasted energy, but I guess I’m here, so ... maybe I can say
that it’s an age thing where the need to have constant stimulation
by the “new” somewhat diminishes, but I still just can’t help living in the
future rather than a past that clings to others my age (and often younger).

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The band - up on cripple creek.


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John Dikeman - tenor saxophone
Luke Stewart - bass
Aleksandar Skoric - drums
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