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Old 02-28-2016, 01:33 AM   #511 (permalink)
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what happened to the days of great music. Iím not talking about well produced, full sounding pieces of EDM ****. Iím talking about the real stuff. Iím a 94 kid, lucky to be born passed the times when the world was facing itís real problems but unlucky to be born after the time when music was a great guitar solo, a singerís crackling howl or the Smashing Pumpkins 1979.

Apparently people are saying that Tame Impala is the worldís last mega rock band, but to me that is the twist of the knife to my heat. No more originals by Bill Corgan, no more Anthony Kiedis losing his **** on stage, and perhaps the last greatest artist, Amy Winehouse. No more jazz, instead more ďtechnoĒ, more of that ďdoof doorĒ **** and more of that music that no one could ever really appreciate because it was never really greatÖ unless played in a club with a bunch of kids either high, drunk or tripping of too many "MDís" / "mollys" / "ecstactcy" / whatever it's called these days.

Itís sad to say, but itís true. I wish I was born a generation earlier, perhaps even three or four so that I could have been born in time to see Jimmy Hendrix and the Gypsies let lose. A time when I may have had to face the real problems of the world but could have at least got lost in the real music of the world. Today my only connection to that world of music and time of life is martin scorsesesí Vinyl. Even the foo fighters have thrown in the towel, but we wonít go there, considering that they still may be one of my favourite bands. The fact that they came to SA and played with a random motor cyclist that they met is enough to have me sold.

Gone are the days of Kurt Cobain saying ďIím not gay, but I wish I were to piss off homophobes.Ē Now are the days of kids like Justin Bieber making headlines, Kanye & Kimís wedding breaking the news & worst of all, Justin Bieberís sorry topping Adele (right now on the billboard 100).

If I had a final wish it would be to see Oasis back in action, beating out Cigarettes & Alcohol & not giving a **** about the media or what anyone else said. Gone are the days of people like Amy Winehouse being quoted to say ďall the instrumentation is completely live. I wouldnít have any fake horns on my record. I think they put fake strings on Take The Box, but I wasnít part of that.Ē

Maybe Iím nostalgic, maybe Iím snobbish, maybe I could be categorised as an "audiophile" but in all honestly, the best musicians seem to be the most troubled musicians (barring Dave Groll). But if I had one final wish, it would be to see these artists live, in all their glory.

Please, anyone out there who is half good at guitar, vocals and can strum a chorus, put your music out there, show me the light and for **** sakes, letís pray that music isnít dead.

"People have this obsession. They want you to be like you were in 1969. They want you to, because otherwise their youth goes with you. It's very selfish, but it's understandable.Ē - Mick Jagger

Give this a read & let me know your opinions. Would love to get some critique and conversations going. I'm not going to "push for people to share" but if you enjoy it, can relate, hate it, or have some words to say, pass it on. self promotion removed by mod

To be honest, I have no idea how reddit works but I hope this gets to the people who are interested.
This reads like parody. Well done.
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Old 02-28-2016, 01:49 AM   #512 (permalink)
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I'm happy to see this thread still being put to good use after all these years.
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Old 02-28-2016, 02:03 AM   #513 (permalink)
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I'm happy to see this thread still being put to good use after all these years.
I can't believe it was forgotten for quite a while. We need it.
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Old 02-28-2016, 08:57 AM   #514 (permalink)
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Iíve just stumbled upon this magnificent thread for the first time. Iíve read through the first 15 and the last 15 pages and will certainly be revisiting the thread to explore more of your ideas. Great stuff!

As a listener who loves the Futurists, the Dadaists, Discordian-inspired musics, and the rich and diverse history of electronic sound, from wire recorder musique concrete to the advent of magnetic tape and onward, I am predisposed to prefer music in a socio-cultural and historical context. Music from the first and second centuries is still stirring and awe-inspiring today, so I believe I hold my expectations of music to somewhat of a high standard.

All of that said, I see straight away that many who reject contemporary music as a whole do so from the perspective that commercial/pop music is representative of its time. This is the fundamental flaw in such a dismissive stance. Whereas pop reached its peak in the age of MTV and the era of radio, mass media has since dwindled in cultural relevance with the democratization of music technology - both in its production and its consumption.

The internet and the age of digital piracy opened listeners up a significantly greater history of recorded sound, both commercial Library of Congress recordings and independent private releases. Accessibility today is immeasurably greater than ever before, creating an environment of better-educated and more discerning listening tastes.

At the same time, digital distribution rendered major labels and media conglomerates (the former gatekeepers to the public consciousness) antiquated and irrelevant dinosaurs of a rapidly dying industry. Those living in the present and witnessing the formulaic, one-dimensional, manufactured product that is pop are beholden to the stark contrast of artistic value and non-value between ďrealĒ artists and the saccharine charade which desperately permeates all facets of mass media but falls on deaf ears.

I think we havenít seen a John Peel, a Stockhausen, or a Cobain in recent decades because the channels which would have broadcast them as cultural giants have now disseminated into millions of more intricate tributaries of cultural waters. You are no longer bombarded by news of which artist to worship in a post-television-and-radio cord-cut culture, so youíre left to discover great music on your own. There just isnít the uniform cultural identity with a spokesperson or hero the way their was in the era of rock. But itís most certainly out there.

Go and discover it.

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John, Kurt, and, Karlheinz are an odd grouping but I get your drift connecting them all as cultural icons.

Concerning Peel, Peel Sessions were like a seal of approval that was out there before you dug into your pockets.

Totally agree about the tributaries and would also say the tributaries that have replaced Peel are electronic. Last.FM, Pandora, Spotify, etc. Not to mention, to me certain posters on here (yourself included) are like today's version of John Peel TO ME. That's a small tributary but it's real. If you recommend it and I don't know it, I'm looking into it. I've even made a playlist of stuff you've mentioned that I need to check out.
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Lol @ Smashing Pumpkins being good music.
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Siamese Dream is great record, imo. Good on ya if that gets a giggle. Is it because they did a Peel Session that brought on this comment?
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FYI I stickied this thread. So we can put such whiny bull**** in here even faster.
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It's a masterpiece of a post tbh. "No more jazz", insinuating that Dave Grohl is a good musician, media whores Oasis apparently "not giving a **** about what the media or anyone else says," "real music," etc. It's more than anyone could ask for.
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