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Old 05-03-2010, 04:31 PM   #201 (permalink)
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Just when it gets really preachy. I'm not sure I want to start a religious debate or anything...so sorry beforehand if I am getting offensive.

I can handle bands where the lyrics are still poetic and I can attach my own personal meaning to it. When they start directly talking about god, jesus, the bible...etc...that's when I find it hard to listen to it. Not that I would bash people who follow those beliefs, I just find it hard to listen to music that I don't personally agree with.

But Christian rock really annoys me and aside from the content, it tells me how bad a person's music taste is.
While I don't have many bands to cite specifically, I think you'd be surprised at how non-preachy a lot of the supposed 'Christian' bands are. If you check out the bands on Tooth & Nail / SolidState Records, I think it'd be hard to feel like you're being preached to... and those are Christian labels. I'm just using that as an example to say that there are a lot of bands out there that don't fit the typical stereotype of a Christian rock/whatever band.
I'm not religious in any way, and I certainly share your sentiments regarding being preached to. I was just confused as to what you meant.

Thanks for clarifying.
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Old 05-03-2010, 05:13 PM   #202 (permalink)
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I didn't even know Tooth & Nail was a Christian label for the longest time. MxPx and mewithoutyou never really sound like they're preaching at you. But, I haven't listened to anything MxPx has released in the past 5+ years so I can't speak for any of that stuff.

Anyway, since everybody keeps bringing up bands like The Beatles and Led Zeppelin, you have to realize people probably make the same argument every generation. In the 80's, a lot of music was crap, but it's been 30 years and people are still talking about The Cure, Echo and the Bunnymen, and tons of punk bands from the time. Give it a few years and everything will be different.
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Old 05-04-2010, 12:55 PM   #203 (permalink)
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When the Velvet Underground were around no one was remotely interested in them, 25 years later they were one of the most influential groups of all time.

It's very difficult to predict what will be influential because in order to do that you have to predict the future.

There is also an assumption that there will even be an interest in popular music.

Imagine someone had asked in 1940 'What current big bands will people be talking about in 25 years?' when in 1965 people were listening to Dylan and The Beatles and couldn't care less about big bands.
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Old 05-04-2010, 07:37 PM   #204 (permalink)
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Don't get me wrong, lot's of eras of music have had many bad or unheard of bands, I am sure not a lot of people have heard of the Budgie's or the Montrose's of the 70's, heck even a band like J Geil's isn't known to the mainstream of music listeners.
this is the fatal flaw i see with most people talking music these days. they're so up their own butts thinking that they have some sort of limited knowledge that the 'mainstream' just doesn't get.

what do you think webforums are now? it's not 1997 anymore.

even then anyone who really liked Metallica knew who Budgie was due to their cover of Breadfan.

i think the big band that will be worthy of note in 25 years will be the one that figures out how to speak to the masses without pandering to established methods and mediums. until then we're all just tuning up.
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Old 05-05-2010, 02:50 AM   #205 (permalink)
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With the amount of music coming out today and the attention span of the consumer becoming less and less, I think it is going to be difficult for bands from our generation and especially the current generation to leave a big enough lasting impression on the world to be remembered 25 years down the road.
I was sitting here trying to think of bands I'll remember and then I came across this. Very well put.

Bands I hope to still be raving about in 20-25 years:
Dresden Dolls/Amanda Palmer
Brand New
Pink-she just keeps getting better
Sonata Arctica-they didn't get terribly big until about 2000
MGMT might have a chance, but it's a little early to tell
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Old 05-05-2010, 03:20 AM   #206 (permalink)
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I think Muse is one of those bands that will be remembered throughout the years
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Old 05-06-2010, 02:22 PM   #207 (permalink)
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Drive-By Truckers
The White Stripes
The Black Crowes
The Steepwater Band
Driving Wheel

great call on the Dresden Dolls - they are AMAZING.
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This is just a short list I thought of on the spot
The Good
The Mars Volta
The remnants of At The Drive-In who moved on from Post-Hardcore to Progressive Rock, they'll be known for their unique playing, conceptual albums, high energy, and Cedric's Robert Plant-esque vocals
Radiohead
Personally I am not the biggest fan of Radiohead, but they became extremely popular particularily because of Kid A combine their electronic, progressive, unique sound with a downloadable album in which you could optionally pay they embodied the spirit of 00's.
The White Stripes
An influential and important band of the 00's they kept Garage Rock alive and well and they did it all with no bass player!
Eminem
Yes, I know he released The Slim Shady LP in 1999, but his popularity and dominance over African-American hip-hop/rap stars reigned supreme.
Kanye West
Okay, I can already hear the bitchin' and complaining, but as much of a douchebag Kanye is, his music is very good and he took sampling to a WHOLE 'NOTHER LEVEL.
Arctic Monkeys
Their debut album Whatever People Say I Am, That's What I'm Not became the fastest selling album in the UK and their combination of British accents, guitar attacking sounds, and first-person narratives has us singing along.
The Bad
Green Day
Two words: Washed up. Let's all agree on this and face the facts that if you bought any of their albums in the 00's you were an American Idiot.
Every Disney Channel Star (Jonas Brother, Miley Cyrus, etc.)
I think the title explains it all ^^^^
Lil' Wayne
Besides coining the term "bling" and appearing on every album in the 00's no one will remember him, although its amazing he did all this in between prison and his "purple drank" binges.
Kanye West
Even though he released some great music, he is still a jackass.
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Old 05-07-2010, 05:58 PM   #209 (permalink)
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From the ones I personaly like:

Sigur Ròs
Godspeed You! Black Emperor
Mastodon

and there are bunch of others that I will still be talking about 25 years from now
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I didn't even know Tooth & Nail was a Christian label for the longest time. MxPx and mewithoutyou never really sound like they're preaching at you. But, I haven't listened to anything MxPx has released in the past 5+ years so I can't speak for any of that stuff.

Anyway, since everybody keeps bringing up bands like The Beatles and Led Zeppelin, you have to realize people probably make the same argument every generation. In the 80's, a lot of music was crap, but it's been 30 years and people are still talking about The Cure, Echo and the Bunnymen, and tons of punk bands from the time. Give it a few years and everything will be different.
music from the 80's WASNT **** at all though. any decade that can embrace pixies, the smiths, joy division (not to mention all of the AWESOME post-punk, early hardcore and punk), the soft boys, the televison personalities, the cure, the entirety of the paisley underground, minutemen, etc. is ok with me.

I know, random list, but still, the 80's were an important period to look at if you want to see where our music is at today, the alt-rock revolution, the beginnings of indie rock, the continued evolution of rap, punk and pop (whether for the better or worse is your call), just don't be bashing the 80's
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