What Is Your Definition Of A "Sell Out"?

clutnuckle · 06-16-2010, 06:20 PM

Art can be an occupation. A lot of people make music for money, but they're not sell-outs, they don't have some sort of 'error in judgment', it's just a viable source of income.

mr dave · 06-16-2010, 06:10 PM

i define a sellout as a person or group who places more significance and importance on commercial profit over creative output while maintaining a front that creativity comes first.

nothing wrong with making money, but don't tell me it's all about your 'art' when you're trying to sell me a t-shirt, sticker, patch, iron on, pin, button, purse, necktie, hat, pants, shoes, wristband, and toilet paper with your freaking logo on it. oh yeah, and your album too.

rammetal7 · 06-16-2010, 06:13 PM

Having more money does not make music better.

**Janszoon** · 06-16-2010, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by rammetal7

Having more money does not make music better.

Neither does having less money. What's your point?

rammetal7 · 06-16-2010, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Neither does having less money. What's your point?

I thought you were trying to say that more money is better for music but now I understand what you said.

crushedblind · 06-16-2010, 06:23 PM

why get all bent over it?

just enjoy the music or don't---could give a **** about the intentions or the money

what's so noble about most of these "sell out" musicians anyway?

keith! · 06-16-2010, 07:08 PM

weezer are probably one of the only bands i'd actually call sell outs.
it's probably just because of how much i love pinkterton and blue, but i honestly don't understand how a band that made this can go on to make this.

FaSho · 06-16-2010, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by keith!

can go on to make this.

This is better:

Also, new Weezer isn't that bad. The Red Album especially was just as good as their old stuff.

keith! · 06-16-2010, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by FaSho

Also, new Weezer isn't that bad. The Red Album especially was just as good as their old stuff.

gonna have to strongly disagree with you there, although Red is waaaay better then Make Believe or Raditude.

So people also consider Green Day sellouts? I'm not a big fan of them but from what people tell me American Idiot is pretty highly regarded among Green Day fans. Why are people upset that they are more popular if the quality is still high?

clutnuckle · 06-16-2010, 07:16 PM

I'd consider Rivers Cuomo one of two things -- He's either a sell-out who purposely makes such terrible music now to appeal to twelve-year olds, or he's simply gone through some sort of mental deprivation that makes him think what he's doing is still good. Sell-out or idiot, your choice!

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crushedblind real emotional trash Join Date: May 2010 Location: midwest Posts: 78	why get all bent over it? just enjoy the music or don't---could give a **** about the intentions or the money what's so noble about most of these "sell out" musicians anyway? __________________ gimme danger little stranger

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clutnuckle Music Addict Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: -_-_-_-_~__~-~_-`_`-~_-`-~-~ Posts: 1,276	Art can be an occupation. A lot of people make music for money, but they're not sell-outs, they don't have some sort of 'error in judgment', it's just a viable source of income.

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rammetal7 Soldier Of Aztlán Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 322	Having more money does not make music better.

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keith! Music Addict Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 287	weezer are probably one of the only bands i'd actually call sell outs. it's probably just because of how much i love pinkterton and blue, but i honestly don't understand how a band that made this can go on to make this.

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clutnuckle Music Addict Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: -_-_-_-_~__~-~_-`_`-~_-`-~-~ Posts: 1,276	I'd consider Rivers Cuomo one of two things -- He's either a sell-out who purposely makes such terrible music now to appeal to twelve-year olds, or he's simply gone through some sort of mental deprivation that makes him think what he's doing is still good. Sell-out or idiot, your choice!