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simplephysics 10-14-2008 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad Stengel (Post 530989)
"New Magnetic Wonder"- The Apples in Stereo

Seriously? I'll admit I hate the 5 second interludes that are pretty much every other song, but still, there are some great tunes on that album.

Brad Stengel 10-14-2008 05:22 PM

Echh, I didn't think so. Sounded like 3rd rate ELO, and I dont even like ELO in the first place. To tell you the truth, everthing after the first three albums Im not wacky about.

debaserr 10-14-2008 05:44 PM

mogwai - the hawk is howling

pavement - terror twilight

pixies - bossanova


and the doors album without morrison...dunno if it should even be considered the doors.

Brad Stengel 10-14-2008 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by trace87 (Post 531007)
mogwai - the hawk is howling

pavement - terror twilight

pixies - bossanova


and the doors album without morrison...dunno if it should even be considered the doors.


I would have put Terror Twilight, but I really like 'Major Leagues'. Pavement lost everything that made them original with that album, they just became this boring pop band.

And Bossanova is only viewed so harsh because it followed 'Rosa' and 'Doolittle'. Its not their strongest, but at least they sounded much different on it, I really like the sound on 'Bossanova'.

spark10036 10-14-2008 06:03 PM

"Metallica" by Metallica
great album but why did it had to be such a mainstream success...?
I really like the albums afterwords but they really became a$$holes

spark10036 10-14-2008 06:06 PM

also "One hot minute" by Red hot chilli peppers
the band picture on the back says it all

spark10036 10-14-2008 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad Stengel (Post 530989)
"Tommy"- The Who

why?
really...I like it.
what for?

Brad Stengel 10-14-2008 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by spark10036 (Post 531028)
why?
really...I like it.
what for?

It's just absurdly weak, if you ask me. I only really like 'Im Free' and 'Christmas', but I DESPISE overture, underture, all those stupid filler storyline tracks, and especially Pinball Wizard. I know I didn't mention 'Terror Twilight' because I like one song, but the reason I wont salvage Tommy for the same reason is that 'Twilight' is just kind of boring, while I actively dislike much of 'Tommy'.

'Who Sell Out' is far superior, as well as everything before it. I like 'Who's Next', Baba O'Reilly is the best song they ever wrote, and I dont like Quadrophenia. Everything afterwords ranges from 'not bad' to 'meh'.

And that's my thoughts on The Who.

debaserr 10-14-2008 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad Stengel (Post 531020)
I would have put Terror Twilight, but I really like 'Major Leagues'. Pavement lost everything that made them original with that album, they just became this boring pop band.

And Bossanova is only viewed so harsh because it followed 'Rosa' and 'Doolittle'. Its not their strongest, but at least they sounded much different on it, I really like the sound on 'Bossanova'.

i dont think bossanova is anywhere near as good as surfer rosa, come on pilgrim, or doolittle

FaSho 10-14-2008 07:08 PM

doolittle was there only album i really even liked at all

Brad Stengel 10-14-2008 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by trace87 (Post 531046)
i dont think bossanova is anywhere near as good as surfer rosa, come on pilgrim, or doolittle

Me either, but that's because the standard set by those albums is impossibly high.

I think if you take any decent album, and make believe it came out after those three, it pales in comparison. If you can seperate it from those three, Bossanovas pretty good, just not as immediate.

I'm not some fanboy either, its my least favorite Pixies record, but it's still a very good album.

FaSho 10-14-2008 07:13 PM

that's why the bands that get progressively better are the ones that don't burn out as fast after their last album is released

debaserr 10-14-2008 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad Stengel (Post 531048)
Me either, but that's because the standard set by those albums is impossibly high.

I think if you take any decent album, and make believe it came out after those three, it pales in comparison. If you can seperate it from those three, Bossanovas pretty good, just not as immediate.

I'm not some fanboy either, its my least favorite Pixies record, but it's still a very good album.

im no fan. i dont have it on my computer.(bought cd though). i dont enjoy it at all.

Brad Stengel 10-14-2008 07:32 PM

Hmm, matter of taste is what it comes down to.

What do you think of Trompe Le Monde, out of curiosity?

lucifer_sam 10-14-2008 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by sleepy jack (Post 530949)
No it's definitely bad.

I knew there was a reason I liked it.

I enjoyed Cassadaga and hated I'm Wide Awake. Whatever. It's not like there's too much of Conor's stuff that I can listen to anyways.

WaspStar 10-15-2008 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Brad Stengel (Post 530989)

"Tommy"- The Who

Personally, I love Tommy, and it might even be my favorite Who album (assuming Meaty, Beaty, Big & Bouncy doesn't count as a proper album), but I can see why people hate it. I'm not big on the interlude tracks either, and I think Pinball Wizard is one of the Who's weakest tracks (the BBC version smokes the album version), but the best songs (We're Not Gonna Take It, Underture, Sally Simpson, Cousin Kevin, Christmas) are a match for just about any other band's work.

The concept is crap, the lyrics can be overbearing, but the music is wonderful. It's a great zoning out album.

Urban Hat€monger ? 10-15-2008 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Brad Stengel (Post 530989)
Any post 1976 Rolling Stones

:eek:

Some Girls is one of their best 70s albums.

debaserr 10-15-2008 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Brad Stengel (Post 531062)
Hmm, matter of taste is what it comes down to.

What do you think of Trompe Le Monde, out of curiosity?

its been on my to do list for 5+ years....

Brad Stengel 10-15-2008 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 531171)
:eek:

Some Girls is one of their best 70s albums.

Aggghhh!!! I HATE "Some Girls", I've given it ample chances too. It has probably the most atrocious Stones song of all time, "Shattered". Echh. The sad part is, everything afterwards made "Some Girls" sound like "Exile" in comparison. I just really dont like any songs off it, while their mid-70's albums, despite being mediocre for the most part, all have at least one song I like.

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Originally Posted by trace87 (Post 531200)
its been on my to do list for 5+ years....

I've always liked it better than 'Bossanova', it rocks harder, and has better melodies. Just don't expect anything near as good as 'Doolittle' or 'Rosa'.

WaspStar 10-15-2008 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 531171)
:eek:

Some Girls is one of their best 70s albums.

Apart from Before They Make Me Run (which is one of the Stones' all time best tracks), I don't see what the fuss is over that album.

Personally, I'll extend Brad's 1976 cutoff for the Stones to 1972. Exile was their last stand for me.

Urban Hat€monger ? 10-15-2008 04:59 PM

I'd say it's solid rather than spectacular , but it's a vast improvement over the 2 that preceeded it.

I've never really understood this whole Exile cut off point regarding the stones , Goats Head Soup while being a step down from Exile is still just as good as anything they put out in the late 60s.

WaspStar 10-15-2008 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 531317)

I've never really understood this whole Exile cut off point regarding the stones , Goats Head Soup while being a step down from Exile is still just as good as anything they put out in the late 60s.

Well, I think they peaked with Let It Bleed, and if Sticky Fingers was a step down from that, Exile was even further down the ladder, but still decent. Goat's Head Soup is, at best, mediocre (and Black & Blue is awful).

Brad Stengel 10-15-2008 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by WaspStar (Post 531314)
Apart from Before They Make Me Run (which is one of the Stones' all time best tracks), I don't see what the fuss is over that album.

Personally, I'll extend Brad's 1976 cutoff for the Stones to 1972. Exile was their last stand for me.

For me, Exile was the end of their "Great" album run.


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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 531317)
I'd say it's solid rather than spectacular , but it's a vast improvement over the 2 that preceeded it.

I've never really understood this whole Exile cut off point regarding the stones , Goats Head Soup while being a step down from Exile is still just as good as anything they put out in the late 60s.

I don't mind Goats Head Soup, and Black and Blue has "Far Away Eyes" which is a good song. I think Goats Head Soup just has "Following a great album Syndrome", where it doesn't matter if it's decent or not, people are still going to expect Exile Pt. 2.


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Originally Posted by WaspStar (Post 531319)
Well, I think they peaked with Let It Bleed, and if Sticky Fingers was a step down from that, Exile was even further down the ladder, but still decent. Goat's Head Soup is, at best, mediocre (and Black & Blue is awful).


No way! I think Sticky Fingers is just as good as "Let It Bleed" and "Beggars Banquet", with Exile eclipsing all of them. 'Sticky Fingers' has 'Sway', 'Dead Flowers', 'Ive Got the Blues', 'Wild Horses', so many great tunes. And of course, Exile being my favorite Stones album, no explanation neccasarry.

NCrusher 10-15-2008 08:37 PM

Weezer- The Red Album.
not so good. Rivers needs to stick to writing the songs

debaserr 10-15-2008 08:52 PM

weezers first album is the only one of theirs i like. i do like hash pipe and holiday in the sun tho...

FaSho 10-16-2008 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by NCrusher (Post 531407)
Weezer- The Red Album.
not so good. Rivers needs to stick to writing the songs

i didnt think it was too bad...better than maladroit

Fletch 10-16-2008 06:19 AM

I grew up loving Queen and all they`re old and middle stuff...

i happened to comment on a Youtube vid how i didnt think much of what they did post `A Kind Of Magic` was any good.... Fkin hell, the hatred and sh!t i got back...


so my vote for this thread is `The Miracle` and `Innuendo` - terrible albums by an immortal band.:hphones:

WaspStar 10-16-2008 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Brad Stengel (Post 531329)
No way! I think Sticky Fingers is just as good as "Let It Bleed" and "Beggars Banquet", with Exile eclipsing all of them. 'Sticky Fingers' has 'Sway', 'Dead Flowers', 'Ive Got the Blues', 'Wild Horses', so many great tunes. And of course, Exile being my favorite Stones album, no explanation neccasarry.

I can't stand Beggar's Banquet; Street Fighting Man is the only keeper on there. Sticky Fingers is their most consistant album (all of the tracks are good, unlike Let It Bleed, which has a few clunkers), but the peaks of Let It Bleed (particularly the last three tracks) eclipse anything on Sticky Fingers.

If I had to choose a favorite Stones album, it'd be Let It Bleed...but as far as the desert island scenario goes, I'd pick Sticky Fingers.

BTW, Far Away Eyes is on Some Girls.

lucifer_sam 10-16-2008 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by WaspStar (Post 531485)
I can't stand Beggar's Banquet; Street Fighting Man is the only keeper on there. Sticky Fingers is their most consistant album (all of the tracks are good, unlike Let It Bleed, which has a few clunkers), but the peaks of Let It Bleed (particularly the last three tracks) eclipse anything on Sticky Fingers.

If I had to choose a favorite Stones album, it'd be Let It Bleed...but as far as the desert island scenario goes, I'd pick Sticky Fingers.

BTW, Far Away Eyes is on Some Girls.

Beggars Banquet is probably the most sound Rolling Stones album. It might not have all their wild hits but it's such a strong album. It doesn't deteriorate in the middle like Let It Bleed or Aftermath, and there are some genuinely infectious tunes on there. It opens with such clarity:

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Please allow me to introduce myself:
I'm a man of wealth and taste.
I've been around for a long long year,
Stole many mans soul and faith.
You're telling me Sympathy with the Devil doesn't have one of the catchiest basslines ever? And it's got some sweet backup vocals too...

Brad Stengel 10-16-2008 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by WaspStar (Post 531485)
I can't stand Beggar's Banquet; Street Fighting Man is the only keeper on there. Sticky Fingers is their most consistant album (all of the tracks are good, unlike Let It Bleed, which has a few clunkers), but the peaks of Let It Bleed (particularly the last three tracks) eclipse anything on Sticky Fingers.

If I had to choose a favorite Stones album, it'd be Let It Bleed...but as far as the desert island scenario goes, I'd pick Sticky Fingers.

BTW, Far Away Eyes is on Some Girls.


Sorry, I meant, "Memory Motel" off Black and Blue, not "Far Away Eyes".

I love Beggars Banquet. "Stray Cat Blues" is one of my top 3 Stones songs.

WaspStar 10-16-2008 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam (Post 531491)
Beggars Banquet is probably the most sound Rolling Stones album. It might not have all their wild hits but it's such a strong album. It doesn't deteriorate in the middle like Let It Bleed or Aftermath, and there are some genuinely infectious tunes on there. It opens with such clarity:

You're telling me Sympathy with the Devil doesn't have one of the catchiest basslines ever? And it's got some sweet backup vocals too...

Actually, I think the weak tracks on Let It Bleed are at the beginning, and I don't think Aftermath really has any weak tracks. BB just doesn't do anything for me.

I never got the big deal over Sympathy, bass line or backup vocals or not. It's decent, but nothing to write home about.

lucifer_sam 10-16-2008 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by WaspStar (Post 531610)
Actually, I think the weak tracks on Let It Bleed are at the beginning, and I don't think Aftermath really has any weak tracks. BB just doesn't do anything for me.

I never got the big deal over Sympathy, bass line or backup vocals or not. It's decent, but nothing to write home about.

We've clearly got some disagreeing tastes then. I think Gimme Shelter might be the best Stones song ever.

There's not really any big deal about Sympathy for the Devil, it's just got an infectious beat and it isn't guitar-driven, which is pretty sweet.

Clamz 10-16-2008 05:25 PM

The White album by The Beatles. Spare a handful of tracks, it really is just a cluster****.

Though I don't dislike it by any means, I find Revolver to be overhyped as an icon for the "album" format. I'm certainly not a stickler for the format, and I do appreciate a good cohesive one too. But the staunch "album as the only respectable musical document" preachers usually adore it, and I can't see how they can. An album that starts off with "Taxman," jumps straight into "Eleanor Rigby," waddles along to "Yellow Submarine," plods along to "Got To Get You Into My Life," and caps off with "Tomorrow Never Knows" is hardly a fantastic example of album-craft. In fact, it feels like I'm listening to a far-more enjoyable version of musical potluck, compared to the **** storm that is The White album.

WaspStar 10-16-2008 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam (Post 531612)
We've clearly got some disagreeing tastes then. I think Gimme Shelter might be the best Stones song ever.

There's not really any big deal about Sympathy for the Devil, it's just got an infectious beat and it isn't guitar-driven, which is pretty sweet.

I love Gimmie Shelter too; I guess I should have been more specific and said that Love In Vain and Country Honk are the tracks I don't care for.

Re: Sympathy For The Devil; I usually don't get into songs on the basis of their rhythms (which is why I don't appreciate much funk music), but I'm all for non-guitar driven songs. That track just doesn't do much for me, though I know I'm definitely in a very small minority here.

metallicafan27 11-23-2008 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by FaSho (Post 530476)
ive never heard master of puppets but ride the lighting is **** except for "as the bell tolls" or something and i dont actually think their s/t is toobad they just havent done anything thats really impressed me

actually the song is for whom the bells toll
and you are on drugs if you think metallica is ****
:finger::band:

FaSho 11-23-2008 11:22 AM

Well I should take your opinion into consideration considering you're clearly not biased about Metallica, Metallicafan27.

dac 11-23-2008 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by metallicafan27 (Post 550373)
actually the song is for whom the bells toll
and you are on drugs if you think metallica is ****
:finger::band:

I am on drugs.

khfreek 11-23-2008 11:38 AM

Let's see:

Lead Sails Paper Anchor - Atreyu
They went in a softer direction.

Steal This Album! - SOAD
I need an explanation?

All Rainbow releases after Dio left

All Rush releases after 1982 (no I haven't heard them all, but I've heard at least one track off each and I am not impressed)

The Great Southern Trendkill - Pantera (I don't really HATE it, but it's so sub-par for them)

FaSho 11-23-2008 12:16 PM

LSPA was Atreyu's second best for me :shycouch:

The 2.0 version is better.

Janszoon 11-23-2008 12:57 PM

I'm a pretty big Leonard Cohen fan but his 2001 album Ten New Songs was just awful. The thing that made it worse was the fact that I had been waiting for nine years for him to put out a new album and when he finally did it was this muzak-sounding crapfest. In retrospect, I guess the atrocious album cover design should've been a tip-off that the album sucked.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...enNewSongs.jpg


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