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WeeLittleHobbit 12-01-2008 03:25 PM

Yeah that's for sure. But I'd still love to see 'em live.

WaspStar 12-02-2008 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by WeeLittleHobbit (Post 555898)
I thought that the new Who album was a huge letdown... But then what do you expect with 2 key members gone?

I'll actually take Endless Wire over any Who album, unless you count Meaty, Beaty as a proper "album." But then again, it probably shouldn't be credited to the Who.

IObject! 12-02-2008 06:09 AM

Isis - The Absence of Truth.. eurgh, drivel.

lucifer_sam 12-02-2008 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by WaspStar (Post 556391)
I'll actually take Endless Wire over any Who album, unless you count Meaty, Beaty as a proper "album." But then again, it probably shouldn't be credited to the Who.

Huh.

I'm not a huge Who fan (I think they're overrated), but I can nominally enjoy Quadrophenia and The Who Sell Out. I absolutely hate Endless Wire, though; they should have stopped making albums after Moon died.

Seltzer 12-02-2008 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by IObject! (Post 556393)
Isis - The Absence of Truth.. eurgh, drivel.

I quite like that album. It'll never be as good as Oceanic or Panopticon, but it's a leap forward rather than rewriting the same album... it's more proggy and less primal than those two. And Over Root and Thorn is one of the greatest things they've done.

I think I might give it another spin now actually.

strappy 12-02-2008 05:11 PM

I really hated Lyrics Born's last album. It was way off the direction I thought he was going in.

IObject! 12-05-2008 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Seltzer (Post 556678)
I quite like that album. It'll never be as good as Oceanic or Panopticon, but it's a leap forward rather than rewriting the same album... it's more proggy and less primal than those two. And Over Root and Thorn is one of the greatest things they've done.

I think I might give it another spin now actually.

I know its a step forward and I wouldnt want them to rewrite the same stuff.. i just think its not very good.

Gareth Brown 12-05-2008 07:29 PM

I don't think i 'hate' any albums by bands i love. Gold Against The Soul by MSP is a bit meh i suppose.......

sleepy jack 12-06-2008 02:57 PM

Of all the Manic Street Preacher albums to pick as bad...

jackhammer 12-06-2008 02:58 PM

I did'nt think any of them were good ;)

boo boo 12-07-2008 12:17 AM

The Holy Bible is great, and I say this as a very passionate hater of all things Nicky Wire.

sleepy jack 12-07-2008 12:19 AM

"Nicky Wire can suck my cock." - Eddie Argos

Zer0 12-15-2008 08:06 AM

All the early Manics albums were good. But after Richey dissappeared they should have called it a day.

jackhammer 12-15-2008 08:21 AM

I tried to get into 'The Holy Bible'. Can't understand what all the fuss is about personally.

debaserr 12-15-2008 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer (Post 564171)
I tried to get into 'The Holy Bible'. Can't understand what all the fuss is about personally.

same here. although i don't know anything else by them.

Urban Hat€monger ? 12-15-2008 03:53 PM

It's all about perspective.

You see a band who were previously no better than a guns n roses / clash tribute band suddenly come up with something dark & gloomy Joy Division-esque years before it was common to rip them off in the middle of a time when everybody was trying to make cheeky ****ney pop music you probably would sit up & take notice of them.

spark10036 12-25-2008 05:19 PM

I can never convince myself to listen to "Ummagumma" from beginning to end

lucylamppost 12-26-2008 10:27 AM

Beck - Modern Guilt

The Unfan 12-26-2008 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by spark10036 (Post 569088)
I can never convince myself to listen to "Ummagumma" from beginning to end

I've determined I'm the only person who will ever list this as the best Pink Floyd album. The whole head-stuck-in-a-vacuum effect the album has is absolutely hypnotic, and the live disc is wonderful.

Also, I like Local H but Ham Fisted is a pretty boring album. The whole thing seems dull and poorly written compared to the stuff they'd later come out with. I'd even go as far as to say its one of the worst debut albums a grunge inspired radio friendly alt-rock band has ever released.

lucifer_sam 12-26-2008 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by The Unfan (Post 569336)
Also, I like Local H but Ham Fisted is a pretty boring album. The whole thing seems dull and poorly written compared to the stuff they'd later come out with. I'd even go as far as to say its one of the worst debut albums a grunge inspired radio friendly alt-rock band has ever released.

****, and here was me thinking that their debut was As Good As Dead (which is a fantastic record).

spark10036 12-26-2008 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by The Unfan (Post 569336)
I've determined I'm the only person who will ever list this as the best Pink Floyd album. The whole head-stuck-in-a-vacuum effect the album has is absolutely hypnotic, and the live disc is wonderful.

yeah, I like the live album myself, I just don't get the 2nd part, the studio album I mean.and they are actually my favorite band

Rage Against the Machine 12-26-2008 11:34 PM

s/t- Lightning Bolt

It's really dull tbh.

lee_kim 12-27-2008 07:02 AM

led zeppelin- in through the outdoor. a decline in the standards set, this is the sound of a band nearing the end.

pavement- terror twilight. just really bad. the difference in creativity and quality between this and brighten the corners is quite profound

beck- midnight vultures. his attempts at the american pre hip-hop urban music style free falls into oblivion. steer clear.

xdarkxbluex 12-27-2008 02:15 PM

metallica - st. anger....
but really, who actually DID like that album?

FaSho 05-24-2009 07:16 AM

I have to bump this for this album:
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Why, Suf, why?

Bulldog 05-24-2009 07:58 AM

I've missed this thread.

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A few good songs, but otherwise it's just a tad boring and uninspiring.

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Beefheart tries to crack the mainstream, with hilarious results.

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The lead-off single, Tuesday Morning, is one of my favourite ever songs. The rest of it's just terrible (Pachinko is probably the worst song they've ever written).

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Not as bad as the other three I've mentioned, but the fact that this followed up the frankly brilliant Scott 4 puts it into perspective.

lucifer_sam 05-24-2009 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Bulldog (Post 665234)
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Beefheart tries to crack the mainstream, with hilarious results.

the Spotlight Kid and Mirror Man are pretty garbage as well. funny how his three most accessible works turn out to be the worst.

Brad Stengel 05-24-2009 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by lee_kim (Post 569563)
pavement- terror twilight. just really bad. the difference in creativity and quality between this and brighten the corners is quite profound

Agreed.

Let's see, Ive always hated all the post-SMiLE Beach Boys material, despite it's minor cult following who swears that it's just as good.

Zappa's 'Cruising with Reuben and the Jets' is dull as turds.

'Tommy' from The Who is disgustingly pretentious, and has WAY too much filler.

sidewinder 05-24-2009 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by lee_kim (Post 569563)
beck- midnight vultures. his attempts at the american pre hip-hop urban music style free falls into oblivion. steer clear.

I know based on this person's post count of 4 and date of the post that they're no longer around. I just have to say, Midnite Vultures is a really fun album and one of Beck's best IMO.

jackhammer 05-24-2009 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by sidewinder (Post 665290)
I know based on this person's post count of 4 and date of the post that they're no longer around. I just have to say, Midnite Vultures is a really fun album and one of Beck's best IMO.

I agree. A lot of people dislike it but it's a fun groovy pop album and what's wrong with that then?

jacklovezhimself 05-24-2009 11:55 AM

Kings Of Leon- Only By The Night

They turned to crap arena rock out of nowhere.
No one saw it coming.

sidewinder 05-24-2009 12:08 PM

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...And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Dead - Worlds Apart
The lowest point in their career, a total disappointment after Source Tags & Codes. Yet they gained a lot of new fans with it. The follow-up, So Divided, was only slightly better with a few stronger tracks, and thankfully they've redeemed themselves with The Century of Self.


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Skinny Puppy - The Greater Wrong Of The Right
Meh...just meh. I was glad that they reunited because it gave the opportunity to finally see my favorite band live, but the album was generally a disappointment. Some of the tracks worked really well live, but the studio versions don't do much for me. The follow-up was a bit more interesting to me and I'm curious where they go with the forthcoming one.


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Eight Frozen Modules - Confused Designer
To its credit, I've only played this album once. But the rest of 8FM's albums have struck me so hard that I just don't think this one works for me. The others are a mind-blowing mix of Autechre, Venetian Snares and Aphex Twin. It's like having your brain sliced and rearranged in a different order. There's always something interesting going on. However this album is a bit more monotonous, annoying noises and sounds going on for far too long, etc. It's a bit more ambient and don't do it for me. Granted it's his debut so he hadn't developed his style quite yet.


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Squarepusher - Just a Souvenir
I can barely make it through this album it's so ****ty/mediocre. What a disappointment, should have downloaded it first.

LoathsomePete 05-24-2009 12:08 PM

Catch-22 by Hypocrisy

the nu metal sounding drums and guitar riffs along with crappy vocal production did not do that album any good in my books, however their 2008 re-release of it was pretty good and gives off the sound of what nu metal should sound like.

sidewinder 05-24-2009 12:09 PM

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Ween - La Cucaracha
Maybe if I played this more it would grow on me. But really you could say that about any album...you hear it enough times you know the songs and may like them. But there's just really nothing that interests me about it. The songs just seem lame, rehashed, and boring to me. Each album previously seemed to offer something new and exiting but not here.

LoathsomePete 05-24-2009 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by sidewinder (Post 665309)
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Ween - La Cucaracha
Maybe if I played this more it would grow on me. But really you could say that about any album...you hear it enough times you know the songs and may like them. But there's just really nothing that interests me about it. The songs just seem lame, rehashed, and boring to me. Each album previously seemed to offer something new and exiting but not here.

It does grow on you.


For the longest time "The Mollusk" was my favorite Ween album but after lengthy plays of "La Cucaracha" it began to overtake it. "12 Golden Country Greats" is probably my second favorite Ween album.

sidewinder 05-24-2009 12:38 PM

Overtaking The Mollusk?! :yikes: Unpossible!

12 Country Greats actually turned me off from them after Chocolate and Cheese. I moved on and didn't go back and listen to the albums that came after 12 Country Greats until about 5 years ago. Boy was I missing out (The Mollusk, White Pepper, Quebec). I'm just not a fan of country but now that I've actually heard the full album I do enjoy some of the songs, I just don't listen to it as much as others. I appreciate old country more than I did when it came out, so that helps.

I'll give La Cucaracha another try one of these days. "Your Party" is a terrible single though, I've heard it a few times on the local indie station and always wonder "why? why that song?" There are better songs on the album but they just seem like self-parodies at this point.

LoathsomePete 05-24-2009 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by sidewinder (Post 665321)
Overtaking The Mollusk?! :yikes: Unpossible!

12 Country Greats actually turned me off from them after Chocolate and Cheese. I moved on and didn't go back and listen to the albums that came after 12 Country Greats until about 5 years ago. Boy was I missing out (The Mollusk, White Pepper, Quebec). I'm just not a fan of country but now that I've actually heard the full album I do enjoy some of the songs, I just don't listen to it as much as others. I appreciate old country more than I did when it came out, so that helps.

I'll give La Cucaracha another try one of these days. "Your Party" is a terrible single though, I've heard it a few times on the local indie station and always wonder "why? why that song?" There are better songs on the album but they just seem like self-parodies at this point.

I think for me "The Mollusk" just got over played. Everytime I smoked up I had to throw it on for "Mutilated Lips" and I use to smoke up A LOT, so that song became permanently etched into the room I smoked in.

sidewinder 05-24-2009 01:08 PM

Gotcha, I've overplayed albums I love too. I guess The Mollusk is still great for me because I really didn't hear it till about 5 years ago. I could say Pure Guava and Chocolate and Cheese were overplayed by me during my "lifted" days.

Janszoon 05-24-2009 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Pobodys_Nerfect (Post 665326)
I think for me "The Mollusk" just got over played. Everytime I smoked up I had to throw it on for "Mutilated Lips" and I use to smoke up A LOT, so that song became permanently etched into the room I smoked in.

Haha, you just described my first year after college to a T.

6underground 05-24-2009 03:04 PM

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Year Zero - NIN

I swear track 2 sounds like My Sharona.


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