OK no more of this, this thread is for people to pay respects and tribute to a young woman who has died. That is it. If you wish to discuss her manner of death and what impact that has on your empathy then please do so in one of our drug threads, or create your own aimed for that kind of discussion. If you wish to discuss the horrible tragedy in Norway then please do so in the designated thread.

Granted there was a point where she had a choice of whether to take the drugs and drink the alcohol, but that was years ago, and if she had an addictive personality to start with it's very easy to fall into a bad cycle like she did. At the end of the day she should be remembered for her talent and not a few reckless decisions she made years ago which led her to this sad end.
Yes, I do think the Norwegian massacre deserves more coverage, but that's just the nature of the British media...the story of a dead celebrity who's drug and alcohol addiction has been well documented is going to pull more mass readers than the deaths (although tragic) of nameless people. It's bad but it's just the way the media is, they'll write what will sell the most papers.

I hate how a lot of newspapers *cough*thesun*cough* have gone from publishing horrible stories about her a few years ago, to calling her an angel and a wasted talent (which she is)....they didn't exactly help her by splashing photos of her drugged up on their front pages to sell papers....such hypocrisy.

My heart goes out to her family, having to bear the pain of her very public downward spiral and now her death. What a tragic, terrible loss. R.I.P. Amy.

I think she was just an average man.

I don't see how you separate the two, (tragedy and casualty) Lennon and Dimebag were both casualties of deranged fans with hand guns. If you have some sympathy for Amy Winehouse or even her friends and family - then you would see it as a tragedy.

I seperate them cause a tragedy is when somebody dies no fault of their own. Lennon and Dimebag I seperated cause they died of unforseen forced, they had no idea they were going to get killed by psychotics... Winehouse though was a casualty of her own problems.. she did not walk out of her apartment and get shot by some psychotic madman.

That is the seperation.

erm RIP Amy?

That's actually the opposite of the primary definition of tragedy. Traditionally, a tragedy is a story where the protagonist comes to ruin as a result of their personal flaws.

Ever heard of a tragic flaw?

Yeah. I was thinking more of the definition of

"(in medieval literature) a literary work in which a great person falls from prosperity to disaster, often through no fault of his own"

But yeah, I suppose the primary meaning upon looking it up is a tragedy.

And yeah, tragic flaw.. the stuff you do not learn being in "special" classes.. pardon my ignorance, but i see what yer sayin now.

I know what you mean, sir.