Music Banter

Go Back   Music Banter > The Music Forums > General Music
Register Blogging Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
Welcome to Music Banter Forum! Make sure to register - it's free and very quick! You have to register before you can post and participate in our discussions with over 70,000 other registered members. After you create your free account, you will be able to customize many options, you will have the full access to over 1,100,000 posts.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-27-2013, 06:05 PM   #11 (permalink)
Aka Cenotaph
 
TockTockTock's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 1,888
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fluffy Kittens View Post
Lou Reed + John Cale
I was just about to post that. Even though they butted heads a lot, I feel that the tension they had helped create an amazing result. The same can be said about Michael Rother and Thomas Dinger of Neu.
TockTockTock is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2013, 08:47 PM   #12 (permalink)
quarantined
 
Neapolitan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Les Barricades Mystérieuses
Posts: 6,902
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnConnington View Post
Hi all you MBers!
My top 5:

Jagger & Richards
Lennon & McCartney
Morrissey & Marr
Strummer & Jones
Page & Plant

!

Do you agree? Who else would you have?
I don't know, maybe if it's only UK Rock bands. As much as I like The Smiths I think there could be other canidates that are just as worthy at the #3 spot. Most bands I like write as a band and I really don't know if there is a songwriting duo behind them. I think one of the best that doesn't get mention much as a writing team is Winwood/Capaldi (with Chris Wood on some tracks). I think Jim Capaldi is under-rated as a songwriter. His lyrics had meaning behind them. Even the next bunch really wrote some meaningful lyrics as well. Since they didn't write hundreds of hits, I give them honourable mention: Difford & Tilbrook, Ashford and Simpson, Leiber and Stoller, Gamble and Huff. And another honourable mention to Rice and Webber, I mean "Jesus Christ Superstar" rocked like it was written by Curved Air.

Steve Winwood and Jim Capaldi
Paper Sun
Pearly Queen
The Low Spark of High Heeled Boys
Freedom Rider
Empty Pages
Dear Mr. Fantasy (Capaldi, Winwood, Wood)
Heaven Is in Your Mind (Capaldi, Winwood, Wood)

Chris Difford and Glenn Tilbrook
Vanity Fair
Annie Get Your Gun
Black Coffee in Bed
Up The Junction
Tempted

Nickolas Ashford and Valerie Simpson
Ain't Nothing Like the Real Thing
California Soul (5th Dimension, Marvin Gaye & Tammi Terrell, and Marlena Shaw)
Reach Out and Touch (Somebody's Hand)
Ain't No Mountain High Enough
You're All I Need to Get By

Jerry Leiber and Mike Stoller
Jail House Rock
Kansas City
Stand By Me

Kenneth Gamble and Leon Huff
If You Don't Know Me by Now
Love Train
Me and Mrs. Jones (with Cary Gilbert)
TSOP (The Sound of Philadelphia)
List of songwriter collaborations - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Quote:
Originally Posted by tore View Post
I don't really have favorite songwriter duos because it's not something I've really reflected on, but I guess I could mention that I think Burt Bacharach & Hal David and Elton John & Bernie Taupin are worthy of mentions in this thread.
Did you ever have a reflection upon Benny Andersson and Bjorn Ulvaeus? I was curious since you live relatively close to ground zero. I mean respectively compare to where other members live. I don't know if you are strictly Prog, (I guess what I'm asking) did you ever have a foray into Pop?
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zhanteimi View Post
Actually, I like you a lot, Nea. That's why I treat you like ****. It's the MB way.

"it counts in our hearts" - ?ºº?
“I have nothing to offer anybody, except my own confusion.” ? Jack Kerouac.
“If one listens to the wrong kind of music, he will become the wrong kind of person.” – Aristotle.
"If you tried to give Rock and Roll another name, you might call it 'Chuck Berry'." - John Lennon
"I look for ambiguity when I'm writing because life is ambiguous." — Keith Richards ? ???? ? ? ?????

Last edited by Neapolitan; 02-27-2013 at 08:54 PM.
Neapolitan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2013, 09:00 PM   #13 (permalink)
Juicious Maximus III
 
tore's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Scabb Island
Posts: 5,935
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Neapolitan View Post
Did you ever have a reflection upon Benny Andersson and Bjorn Ulvaeus? I was curious since you live relatively close to ground zero. I mean respectively compare to where other members live. I don't know if you are strictly Prog, (I guess what I'm asking) did you ever have a foray into Pop?
Of course I listen to a lot of pop and don't really consider myself a proghead at all. About Benny and Bjørn, I feel like I've heard enough ABBA to last me a lifetime, starting with LPs from when I was a kid. But there's no denying they wrote great pop songs - and lots of them. My personal favorites may be Voulez Vous and SOS
__________________
In the age of information, ignorance is a choice.
tore is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2013, 06:16 AM   #14 (permalink)
quarantined
 
Neapolitan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Les Barricades Mystérieuses
Posts: 6,902
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tore View Post
Of course I listen to a lot of pop and don't really consider myself a proghead at all. About Benny and Bjørn, I feel like I've heard enough ABBA to last me a lifetime, starting with LPs from when I was a kid. But there's no denying they wrote great pop songs - and lots of them. My personal favorites may be Voulez Vous and SOS
They weren't too popular here, so they never worn on me. I can take them or leave them depending on the song. But I still love SOS, Pete Townsend said it was the greatest Pop song ever written. What I like about it is like a mini Prog song, under three and a half minutes.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cenotaph View Post
I was just about to post that. Even though they butted heads a lot, I feel that the tension they had helped create an amazing result. The same can be said about Michael Rother and Thomas Dinger of Neu.
It wasn't a writing partnership like Elton and a Bernie Taupin were like everything was a colabortain. They did write some songs together, but Lou Reed singularly gets the credit for something like 73% of the songs on VU & Nico. But I'm not saying the Cale or the other had no imput, even Moe got credit on European son, and the band as a whole contribute to the music as a whole. Still "Sunday Morning" is enough to mention them.

I guess another example would be Mike Love and Brian Wilson there a few songs, but Brian wrote most, some with outside (of the band) help.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zhanteimi View Post
Actually, I like you a lot, Nea. That's why I treat you like ****. It's the MB way.

"it counts in our hearts" - ?ºº?
“I have nothing to offer anybody, except my own confusion.” ? Jack Kerouac.
“If one listens to the wrong kind of music, he will become the wrong kind of person.” – Aristotle.
"If you tried to give Rock and Roll another name, you might call it 'Chuck Berry'." - John Lennon
"I look for ambiguity when I'm writing because life is ambiguous." — Keith Richards ? ???? ? ? ?????
Neapolitan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2013, 07:07 AM   #15 (permalink)
Aka Cenotaph
 
TockTockTock's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 1,888
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Neapolitan View Post
It wasn't a writing partnership like Elton and a Bernie Taupin were like everything was a colabortain. They did write some songs together, but Lou Reed singularly gets the credit for something like 73% of the songs on VU & Nico. But I'm not saying the Cale or the other had no imput, even Moe got credit on European son, and the band as a whole contribute to the music as a whole. Still "Sunday Morning" is enough to mention them.

I wouldn't say so at all. Reed (usually) wrote the lyrics and created the general idea and/or melody... whereas Cale developed them into something more interesting and unique. It's like... Reed came up with a pencil drawing and Cale turned it into a painting. So, I would say it's around 50/50 as far as the songwriting is concerned.
TockTockTock is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2013, 03:12 PM   #16 (permalink)
Groupie
 
Hazlehurst's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 11
Default

I'm going to have to throw two partnerships in to the hat here:

Mercury/May
Godley/Creme
Hazlehurst is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2013, 03:16 PM   #17 (permalink)
The Sexual Intellectual
 
Urban Hat€monger ?'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Somewhere cooler than you
Posts: 18,447
Default

David Bowie & Coke
__________________



Urb's RYM Stuff

Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.
Urban Hat€monger ? is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2013, 05:28 PM   #18 (permalink)
Groupie
 
jonnymega's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 8
Default

lennon/mccartney imo made a huge and lasting impression
jonnymega is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2013, 06:56 PM   #19 (permalink)
quarantined
 
Neapolitan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Les Barricades Mystérieuses
Posts: 6,902
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cenotaph View Post
I wouldn't say so at all.
Still you ca't say they worked together the same way John & Taupin did - using them (J&T) as one example of songwriting team in the traditional sense. Lennon and McCartney didn't either, Paul would write the song and John would givehis imput and vice a versa.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cenotaph View Post
[Reed (usually) wrote the lyrics and created the general idea and/or melody... whereas Cale developed them into something more interesting and unique. It's like... Reed came up with a pencil drawing and Cale turned it into a painting. So, I would say it's around 50/50 as far as the songwriting is concerned. [/FONT]
50/50? What about Sterling and Moe, what are they... chop liver? Lou wrote the song and the band together turun it into the final peice of artwork.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zhanteimi View Post
Actually, I like you a lot, Nea. That's why I treat you like ****. It's the MB way.

"it counts in our hearts" - ?ºº?
“I have nothing to offer anybody, except my own confusion.” ? Jack Kerouac.
“If one listens to the wrong kind of music, he will become the wrong kind of person.” – Aristotle.
"If you tried to give Rock and Roll another name, you might call it 'Chuck Berry'." - John Lennon
"I look for ambiguity when I'm writing because life is ambiguous." — Keith Richards ? ???? ? ? ?????
Neapolitan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2013, 10:41 PM   #20 (permalink)
Aka Cenotaph
 
TockTockTock's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 1,888
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Neapolitan View Post
50/50? What about Sterling and Moe, what are they... chop liver? Lou wrote the song and the band together turun it into the final peice of artwork.
I'm talking about between the two of them. Tucker and Morrison were vital in The Velvet Underground's rhythm section and gave it that quasi-indie rock feel.
TockTockTock is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Similar Threads



© 2003-2020 Advameg, Inc.