Canada vs. USA

sopsych · 06-08-2013, 10:10 AM

Uh, possibly "less manufactured" (the kind of insight I'd been waiting for). But "better"? Probably not, due to the problem nobody has cited: as a rule, it's bland. That might be related to a lack of trend-following up there.

Speaking of bland, another omission and the one male pop star exported from Canada in the last 10 or more years: Michael Buble.

Burning Down · 06-08-2013, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by sopsych

Uh, possibly "less manufactured" (the kind of insight I'd been waiting for). But "better"? Probably not, due to the problem nobody has cited: as a rule, it's bland. That might be related to a lack of trend-following up there.

Speaking of bland, another omission and the one male pop star exported from Canada in the last 10 or more years: Michael Buble.

If you're talking successful male pop stars from Canada in the last 10 years, you forgot Justin Bieber. Yeah I know everyone loves to hate him, etc and he's just manufactured pop basically, and I don't listen to his music myself, but he's all ours. I would have thought JB would be mentioned long before Michael Bublé though, solely based on popularity.

djchameleon · 06-08-2013, 11:30 AM

Mr. Buble is insanely popular though. No idea why he sells so many records in his first week of sales but he does huge numbers every single time and I'm pretty sure Justin Bieber got mentioned earlier in the thread with Nickelback.

sopsych · 06-08-2013, 07:56 PM

I guess I don't think of Justin as a man

Are Alanis and some of the other (musical-vacuum/borders-down) 90's acts the least generic of popular Canadian exports in the past 30 years? It's like the United States only wants polished exported versions of specific genres (Buble throwback standards, Bieber pretty-boy pop for teen girls, Bryan Adams pop-rock, Avril grrl-power pop, Shania pop-country). Another way of saying it is that the mainstream American media sometimes will give an odd-sounding native act a chance but rarely will be open to music from Canada that seems strange. That might have something to do with national record labels. Maybe Canadian record labels can be lazy in artist promotion because they'll be played in the homeland anyway? But meanwhile, all sorts of weird stuff comes over from the UK, with that country almost seen as a musical role model.

Errm, 18 pages in, first mention of Corey Hart, one of the most successful Canadians on the 1980's US pop charts and maybe the most underrated hit-making Canadian export of the past 30 years. Since the dawn of MTV, few men from anywhere have done pop at such a high level for a half-decade or longer.

Paedantic Basterd · 06-08-2013, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by sopsych

Clearly Canada loses in the "supergroup" category. I can understand why America wouldn't welcome imports made up of little-known musicians.

I bet people would discuss things with you more often if you weren't so aggressive.

Uncle Vernon · 06-10-2013, 08:50 AM

Canada... Neil Young... Rush...

I have to go with the US. No doubt.

Paedantic Basterd · 06-10-2013, 09:05 AM

Realistically, it's not even a reasonable comparison, because the US sample size you're choosing from has nearly ten times the population from which artists might emerge. If you compared Canadian and American accountants, you'd get the same results.

djchameleon · 06-10-2013, 09:11 AM

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Realistically, it's not even a reasonable comparison, because the US sample size you're choosing from has nearly ten times the population from which artists might emerge. If you compared Canadian and American accountants, you'd get the same results.

What the? Get your logic out of here.

US is clearly the winner

Paedantic Basterd · 06-10-2013, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

What the? Get your logic out of here.

US is clearly the winner

I would tell you to compare Canada to the state of California for a closer sample, but then there's bias inherent in the fact that California tends to draw a type of person to it, which skews the results.

djchameleon · 06-10-2013, 09:15 AM

I wasn't saying that your logic was incorrect but based on the OP he wasn't going for anything remotely logical.

You are right.

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sopsych Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: indoors Posts: 722	Uh, possibly "less manufactured" (the kind of insight I'd been waiting for). But "better"? Probably not, due to the problem nobody has cited: as a rule, it's bland. That might be related to a lack of trend-following up there. Speaking of bland, another omission and the one male pop star exported from Canada in the last 10 or more years: Michael Buble. __________________ If you have ideas or feedback for the site, visit The Musicbanter Improvement Thread.

06-08-2013, 07:56 PM	#174 (permalink)
sopsych Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: indoors Posts: 722	I guess I don't think of Justin as a man Are Alanis and some of the other (musical-vacuum/borders-down) 90's acts the least generic of popular Canadian exports in the past 30 years? It's like the United States only wants polished exported versions of specific genres (Buble throwback standards, Bieber pretty-boy pop for teen girls, Bryan Adams pop-rock, Avril grrl-power pop, Shania pop-country). Another way of saying it is that the mainstream American media sometimes will give an odd-sounding native act a chance but rarely will be open to music from Canada that seems strange. That might have something to do with national record labels. Maybe Canadian record labels can be lazy in artist promotion because they'll be played in the homeland anyway? But meanwhile, all sorts of weird stuff comes over from the UK, with that country almost seen as a musical role model. Errm, 18 pages in, first mention of Corey Hart, one of the most successful Canadians on the 1980's US pop charts and maybe the most underrated hit-making Canadian export of the past 30 years. Since the dawn of MTV, few men from anywhere have done pop at such a high level for a half-decade or longer. __________________ If you have ideas or feedback for the site, visit The Musicbanter Improvement Thread. Last edited by sopsych; 06-08-2013 at 08:03 PM.

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Uncle Vernon Groupie Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 27	Canada... Neil Young... Rush... I have to go with the US. No doubt.

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Paedantic Basterd Music Addict Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 5,184	Realistically, it's not even a reasonable comparison, because the US sample size you're choosing from has nearly ten times the population from which artists might emerge. If you compared Canadian and American accountants, you'd get the same results.