Originally Posted by AwwSugar (Post 1348296)

And it seems that it's actually all states that have the "Stand Your Ground" law. How nice it is to be in NY!

many of my faves are on the boycott list, I'm glad.

Like I said earlier in our conversation, though, there's apparently a huge club in Miami and people are doubting that celebs will stay away from performing or at least going there. I don't know what to think but this is still a great statement to make.

Originally Posted by AwwSugar (Post 1348305)

She so blatantly doesn't care about anyone but herself. I doubt she would. but if she does, it'll be for publicity just as much as Zimmerman "saving" that family.

And with Madonna, she definitely does have the "white saviour" complex that so many celebs are plagued with. Either way, it makes a statement. The bigger the group, the better. I know it's important that the celebs are actually on board with the cause, but even if it's for media, it's drawing negative attn. to Florida and the "Stand Your Ground" law. So in this case, it might not be so bad.

Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1348340)

have you been boycotting Florida produced items in your everyday life?

I notice that I've been looking at the labels more to see if what I'm buying comes from Florida and depending on the product I won't buy it.

I'm only like half assed boycotting lol. If it's something I really want....I just end up getting it anyways but I have put back a few items.

Originally Posted by Hermione (Post 1348343)

We aren't pop superstars bro we can't afford that lol!

Originally Posted by AwwSugar (Post 1348342)

I don't think me doing it will make a statement, but I can try. ;P

I'm always boycotting something, I feel like.

Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1348348)

what? of course you can instead of Florida oranges stick to only California ones.

Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1348348)

what? of course you can instead of Florida oranges stick to only California ones

things like that.



You might not feel like you doing it is a big enough statement but every little bit helps/counts. Hurting them in their wallets is the only thing they will respond to when they see overall sales are down.

Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1348348)

what? of course you can instead of Florida oranges stick to only California ones

things like that.



You might not feel like you doing it is a big enough statement but every little bit helps/counts. Hurting them in their wallets is the only thing they will respond to when they see overall sales are down.

Originally Posted by anticipation (Post 1348361)

Let's punish hardworking Floridians for doing nothing but living in a state with laws they had very little to no influence in passing. God forbid if any one of your home states overturned Roe vs Wade because these slags would be calling for your throat to be slit for buying a locally grown apple.

Originally Posted by anticipation (Post 1348361)

Let's punish hardworking Floridians for doing nothing but living in a state with laws they had very little to no influence in passing. God forbid if any one of your home states overturned Roe vs Wade because these slags would be calling for your throat to be slit for buying a locally grown apple.

Originally Posted by hip hop bunny hop (Post 1348370)

lawl, stand your ground laws are awesome & I'm glad George Zimmerman got the verdict he deserved.

Originally Posted by Necromancer (Post 1348353)

There has been a white boycott pending in California every since OJ Simpson was acquitted for murder. ;)

Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR. (Post 1348354)

Its totally asinine to boycott anything Florida just because their judicial system worked in a guys favor. He was acquitted because they could not prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he was guilty. I always find these boycotts absolutely ridiculous anyway. Anything Madonna gets behind is something I would avoid like the plague.

Originally Posted by Mojo (Post 1348356)

Doesn't California have this law as well?

Originally Posted by anticipation (Post 1348361)

Let's punish hardworking Floridians for doing nothing but living in a state with laws they had very little to no influence in passing. God forbid if any one of your home states overturned Roe vs Wade because these slags would be calling for your throat to be slit for buying a locally grown apple.

Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1348425)

Those same hardworking Floridians put the people into office by voting for them and they put those laws into place. Protesting is all fine and dandy but people listen to money first and foremost and when they see that they are going to be losing out on so much money the people in power that does have influence will work their hardest to see that things get changed so they can go back to business as usual.

Originally Posted by hip hop bunny hop (Post 1348533)

People in Florida need to understand, that if someone smashes your head against the pavement repeatedly, you have no right to defend yourself.

Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1348425)

yeah but we all know OJ did it, he might've been acquitted but he was far from innocent plus Karma paid him back tenfold and he did jailtime or is still in jail for something stupid and unrelated.



Ah you are one of those? So I guess you wouldn't care about the Montgomery Bus Boycott either. It's all Rosa's fault that she didn't get her lazy ass up and move to the back of the bus like she was supposed to.

I have no problem with the verdict. If I was on the jury, I would have voted the same way the jurors did but the fact of the matter is he decided to get out of his car, stalk a teenage boy on his way home and then when he sneaks up on him and an altercation breaks out he cowardly shots the boy dead. Supposedly he rescued some people recently. He had enough muscle power to rescue those people but he couldn't wrestle a teenage boy off of him? come the fuck on.




No, Cali doesn't have this law. There are 23 states that have the law or similar variants of it but it would be best to concentrate on boycotting one state and attempting to get them to change that law then work on the others.



Those same hardworking Floridians put the people into office by voting for them and they put those laws into place. Protesting is all fine and dandy but people listen to money first and foremost and when they see that they are going to be losing out on so much money the people in power that does have influence will work their hardest to see that things get changed so they can go back to business as usual.

Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1348534)

they need to understand that it's not okay follow people even after being told to stay in their car just because they don't like the look of the person and the fact that they are wearing a hoodie.

Originally Posted by hip hop bunny hop (Post 1348543)

Ah! So if someones following me, I can bash their head against the pavement?

Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR. (Post 1348542)

California has the law and its called the Castle Doctrine. The fact is a young boy lost his life and its tragic. Thats all, no need to boycott valencia oranges from Key West as it will do nothing to further the abolishment of the Castle Doctrine. Another fact is Zimmerman was acquitted of all charges, end of story. Can we learn something from this, sure we can, but bringing up Rosa Parks isn't gonna help with the learning process.

Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1348551)

he was defending himself from being attacked. Who knows wtf the person following him was going to do.



I brought up Rosa Parks just to point out the fact that you are just one of those type of people that don't believe in fighting for anything or so it seems.

Boycotting is a peaceful solution as opposed to rioting and it's part of the process of trying to get a law changed that shouldn't be on the books anymore.

Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1348551)

he was defending himself from being attacked. Who knows wtf the person following him was going to do.

Originally Posted by hip hop bunny hop (Post 1348560)

So:

1. When one's head is being bashed against the pavement, you've no right to self-defense.

2. When one's being followed for no apparent reason, it's ok to react violently.


Is some elaborating in order, 'cuz, as it stands, this makes no sense.

Originally Posted by 216 (Post 1348557)

you miss the point on boycotting because its not like boycotting a guy at the farmers market who is an open racist. its boycotting playin shows, costing tons of people who not only had nothin to do with the case or the law, but who also probably AGREE with you. its those ppl they are hurting.

Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1348564)

The self defense switched places, first it was okay for Trayvon to defend himself and then when Zimmerman was getting his head beat in it was okay to defend himself but lethal force was excessive imo. Also, he shouldn't have been stalking him in the first fucking place especially after being told to stay put. What kind of neighborhood watch disobeys orders like that and also as neighborhood watch all you are supposed to be doing is watching and reporting. Not acting. Then after all is said and done why the fuck do you have to go and lie about every single fucking thing like you know you did something wrong?




There are organized groups calling for an outright ban of everything from Florida. Not just shows related to the article in the OP.

Yes it may be hurting them but they are going to have to be collateral damage until something is done about that law.

Originally Posted by 216 (Post 1348568)

and what if the law isn't changed?? first off from everything we know as the public, there is absolute justification for zimm to pull that trigger. hip hop bunny is exactly correcet. so lets say the law isnt changed, then whats the outcome?? hurting a lot of people financially who have nothing to do with your 'cause' and most likely actually agree with you. do you think those losing money are gonna say 'hey its ok guys i cant afford rent, but theres like a 50% chance a law that will likely never effect me gets changed so its cool!'

i dont believe you think very practically

Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1348572)

When people start losing money especially people in power they will do everything and pull any strings they can to make sure something happens.

Also the people at the bottom rung that are losing out financially should be happy that the law gets changed if it does so they don't run into a situation where they have a family member killed and it gets justified by this stupid fucking law.

Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1348572)

When people start losing money especially people in power they will do everything and pull any strings they can to make sure something happens.

Also the people at the bottom rung that are losing out financially should be happy that the law gets changed if it does so they don't run into a situation where they have a family member killed and it gets justified by this stupid fucking law.

Originally Posted by Hermione (Post 1348583)

^ the last is kinda unfair, that's like saying you should be grateful for someone taking a literal dump on you because you're not rich/privileged.

Originally Posted by 216 (Post 1348586)

i dont know, sounds like a gigantic gamble to me to risk the livlihood of other people like that.

i have no problem with boycotting as a whole cause it certainly works in some cases, but this case the direction is misguided at best. not to mention im not sure a lot of celebs are even sure what they are boycotting

Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR. (Post 1348592)

DJ himself said he would have voted the same way the jurors did. Which leads me to believe WTF are you boycotting then? This is just another way for people to feel important about issues that really have **** all to do with them.

Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR. (Post 1348592)

DJ himself said he would have voted the same way the jurors did. Which leads me to believe WTF are you boycotting then? This is just another way for people to feel important about issues that really have **** all to do with them.

Originally Posted by 216 (Post 1348597)

totally agree. fluffy kitten completely naile dit on the head in this thread or maybe another one...... its a competition of who cna grieve the hardest.