Has music become pussified?

Urban Hat€monger ? · 04-03-2014, 08:09 AM

I'll always equate 'Alternative' as American bands that suck who wish they were on an independent label.

**Janszoon** · 04-03-2014, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Goofle11

Neither of those terms explain any aspect of what the music sounds like.

I agree that they're vague but I think they imply certain hard to define things about the aesthetic.

**Janszoon** · 04-03-2014, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ?

I'll always equate 'Alternative' as American bands that suck who wish they were on an independent label.

Like Bush?

**Goofle** · 04-03-2014, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

I agree that they're vague but I think they imply certain hard to define things about the aesthetic.

I think both terms work alongside another descriptor such as "Rock" or "Country", when on their own they can't really define anything. If I said "Death Grips are an Indie band" it isn't going to help you understand what type of music they make, if anything, it will steer you in the wrong direction because of those assumptions/implications that go along with the words "indie" and "alternative".

Urban Hat€monger ? · 04-03-2014, 08:25 AM

Bush were discovered by a Los Angeles radio station and were unknown in the UK.
In fact even today their first album still hasn't sold more than 60,000 over here.

So you can have them.

**Janszoon** · 04-03-2014, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Goofle11

I think both terms work alongside another descriptor such as "Rock" or "Country", when on their own they can't really define anything. If I said "Death Grips are an Indie band" it isn't going to help you understand what type of music they make.

To me they're both associated with rock unless they have some other qualifier attached to them.

**Janszoon** · 04-03-2014, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ?

Bush were discovered by a Los Angeles radio station and were unknown in the UK.
In fact even today their first album still hasn't sold more than 60,000 over here.

So you can have them.

No thanks.

**Goofle** · 04-03-2014, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

To me they're both associated with rock unless they have some other qualifier attached to them.

I agree with that, and I automatically assume that myself. But I was responding to Francis saying "Indie Alternative" is a genre. I mean, that's simply not something I can co-sign.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 04-03-2014, 08:29 AM

TAKE THEM YOU FUCKER

**Janszoon** · 04-03-2014, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Goofle11

I agree with that, and I automatically assume that myself. But I was responding to Francis saying "Indie Alternative" is a genre. I mean, that's simply not something I can co-sign.

I agree with that. All I can imagine is Chris Cornell attempting a twee sounding duet with Courtney Love.

04-03-2014, 08:09 AM	#141 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	I'll always equate 'Alternative' as American bands that suck who wish they were on an independent label. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

04-03-2014, 08:25 AM	#145 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	Bush were discovered by a Los Angeles radio station and were unknown in the UK. In fact even today their first album still hasn't sold more than 60,000 over here. So you can have them. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

04-03-2014, 08:29 AM	#149 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	TAKE THEM YOU FUCKER __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.